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World Capitals Voronoi
- mattoxic 4mo agoTaipei claiming a big chunk of the PRC. Probably go down as well as Ottawa and Mexico City claiming big chunks of the USA
- yellowapple 4mo agoFunny enough, Mexico's borders on this globe ain't far off from where they were before the Mexican-American War.
- nsavage 4mo agoThe bad news is that we lose Windsor in this trade. The good news is that we pick up Seattle and Minneapolis.
- orthoxerox 4mo agoWell, it has claims on all of China in reality, being the rump state.
- vincnetas 4mo agoIf country boundaries were Voronoi diagrams with respect to their capitals.
- brunellus 4mo agoI really enjoyed this.
- syats 4mo agoGreat work.
- jezzamon 4mo agoI want to see one a diagram which includes the oceans too
- vulcan01 4mo agoHuh, Canada seems roughly intact (except for BC).
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- wk_end 4mo agoBC's intact too, if I'm reading this correctly. We lose some far north to Iceland and the very southern tip of Ontario to the US, and that seems to be it as far as I can tell. And as a trade we get New England, a good chunk of Washington, and the northern Plains and a bit of the Midwest. Not bad, really!
- bwestergard 4mo agoSeems right, ship it.
- forthwall 4mo agoInteresting, if a country has multiple capitals, it gets split even more!
- jasondavies 4mo agoI've updated the map to use only one de facto capital city per region.
- martinclayton 4mo agoDublin knabs a decent chunk of Great Britain, Copenhagen gets southern Sweden. Seems fair.
- raverbashing 4mo agoIf they added Cardiff and Edinburgh I think the map would be more realistic
- OisinMoran 4mo agoJoin the Celtic Union, don't be shy!
- pimlottc 4mo agoI would love to see some stats with this. What countries gain/loss the most? Which countries are the last changed? What areas are the now the most countries away from their original country?
- jcranmer 4mo agoEyeballing the map: For largest absolute net gain of land area, I guess Mongolia wins the cake, getting a very large slice of Siberia while losing almost no land. For a percentage net gain of land area, maybe one of the European microstates, or East Timor. Largest absolute net loss of land area is Russia for sure. Largest percent loss is... probably Russia? Again, losing Siberia is a large fraction of its land, and nobody else seems to be so screwed by the distance. Excluding overseas territories, there's three borders between Yakutia-cum-Japan and its current capital, Moscow, and another case of that in the far western reaches of Brazil. If you include overseas territories, well, French Polynesia is currently almost literally antipodal from Paris, and I don't really know how you would count 'most countries away' in that case, but you can't really get further than that.
- radpanda 4mo agoI dunno, New Zealand getting a big chunk of Antarctica is a pretty big percentage gain too.
- Conscat 4mo agoI find it very funny to imagine Keralam and Tamil Nadu part of Sri Lanka.
- rv1994 4mo agoAlthough ethnically they're closer to Sri Lanka than North India
- Georgelemental 4mo agoHmm, looks like it models capital cities as a single point, and therefore assigns much more territory to Vatican City than would a model that took into account Rome's city boundaries
- bensyverson 4mo agoYes, this is the point, right?
- canyp 4mo agoIt is the point, precisely.
- Liquid_Fire 4mo agoIt says "determined by the closest capital city". The only area where Vatican City is closer than (some part of) Rome is within Vatican City.
- Svoka 4mo agoUkraine's capital is misspelled "Kiev". Should be "Kyiv"
- falcor84 4mo agoJust for a bit of context, this site is from over a decade ago, at which point almost everyone outside of Ukraine used the old spelling of Kiev, despite the official transliteration change to Kyiv from 1995 [0]. Ukraine ended up having to run the KyivNotKiev [1] campaign to get other countries to adopt the new spelling, which mostly gradually happened over the last few years. But I think it's a bit much to expect every resource out there to retroactively update their spelling. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Kyiv https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_Kyiv [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KyivNotKiev https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KyivNotKiev
- Svoka 4mo agoThank you for westsplaining me my history. It was always Kyiv. Your (personal or collective) ignorance and/or obsession over moscowite imperiealists doesn't change the name of my city.
- jasondavies 4mo agoFixed!
- Svoka 4mo agoThanks. Only correct response.
- 4gotunameagain 4mo agoKiev is a perfectly valid English spelling.
- Svoka 4mo agoLove when people try to explain me how to call my city.
- NathanielBaking 4mo agoMadison, Canada. Now I just need to sell this to the Canadians.
- pithon 4mo agoThe framerate and latency on this visualization is absolute magic. Hover the mouse around over the sphere: https://www.jasondavies.com/maps/voronoi/ https://www.jasondavies.com/maps/voronoi/
- canyp 4mo agoIndeed. It is rare to encounter a webgl/gpu visualization that doesn't rev up the fans at 100% while sitting idle, let alone to have this low latency handling input. Virtually all web demos I have seen run terribly because literally 0 attention is paid to actual rendering. The other day somebody submitted one here and admitted they didn't know backface culling was a thing. They also almost universally have no sort of frame pacing.
- sheept 4mo agoIt feels quite choppy on mobile, but I think it could be fixed by adding touch-action: none
- jasondavies 4mo agoFixed!
- chrismorgan 4mo agoI find zooming on this world capitals one to be quite slow for some reason, mostly well below 10fps, and it’s rendering all frames rather than skipping to keep up (the wrong decision, I reckon). Panning is excellent; and zooming is fine on /maps/voronoi/, which has only a dozen or so points, which I guess must be few enough not to slow it down. I’m curious what’s going on, but not enough to delve into the code myself. Actually, even /maps/voronoi/ lags if you zoom in really far, and in a way that can break the scroll capture—I presume the code is non-passively watching scroll events and calling preventDefault(), but once it’s lagging hard enough the browser takes matters into its own hands and says you didn’t act fast enough.
- thadk 4mo ago2014 https://web.archive.org/web/20140515004053/https://www.jasondavies.com/maps/voronoi/capitals/ https://web.archive.org/web/20140515004053/https://www.jason...
- cperciva 4mo agoIt would be interesting to see a map which was not minimizing [distance to capital] but instead minimized [distance to capital]/sqrt([national population]). The latter would be more robust against Sybil attacks.
- mckn1ght 4mo agoI was wondering what kind of metric could be used to visualize a nation’s ability to project power. Maybe some ratio involving the furthest distance from the capital city to the nation’s border? I’m curious why the sqrt of the population in the denominator?
- MarkusQ 4mo agoI think that's supposed to be read as "or"? (I momentarily had the same confusion myself.)
- cperciva 4mo agoSquare root of the population is because that's what it takes to normalize large vs small countries. Imagine slicing a country into quarters; each slice has a quarter of the population and half the radius.
- mlsu 4mo agoNow the corollary. For each country, given existing borders, place the capital directly in the geographic area centroid? Population centroid? Which capitals move most?
- wood_spirit 4mo agoRelated post from same site earlier this week https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48385457 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48385457
- T_S_ 4mo agoNew Risk board released
- polotics 4mo agothe choice of which city makes it into a dot seems very arbitrary, just for my corner of the woods, I see Genova and Lyons are omitted even they they are larger than their dot-neighbours on this map...
- yiyus 4mo agoIt's not arbitrary. They are the capitals. Capitals are not necessarily the largest cities.
- raverbashing 4mo agoThe funny thing about this is that it's almost realistic But in fact of course geography plays a big part That "non-existent" country between France and Spain would actually be the center of Occitan/Langues d'Oc. (Well, it's actually the location of Andorra) It is also in the middle of the Pyrenees so of course that is going to push population out to the sides Same thing for where the areas "bleed over" water regions or some rivers
- legostormtroopr 4mo agoSpeedrun: Starting World War III, any%
- the_origami_fox 4mo agoSouth Africa is split into 4 segments. Johannesburg is not a capital. Otherwise South Africa has 3 capital cities - administrative (Pretoria), legislative (Cape Town) and judicial (Bloemfontein) - but Pretoria is informally considered the "main" capital.
- rubenvanwyk 4mo agoCame here to say this.
- jasondavies 4mo agoFixed!
- keybored 4mo agoI think Montevideo’s slice of Antarctica is the craziest.
- pcrh 4mo agoLas Malvinas son Uruguayo.
- gnoll_of_gozag 4mo agowould be interesting to see one that takes into account things like railroads or terrain ruggedness
- pcrh 4mo agoThe Vatican is surrounded on all sides by Rome. It is on the boundary of Municipio I (historical center) and Municipio XIII (Aurelia), however. So is Municipio I considered the "actual" capital of Italy? Also, the Vatican is the Holy See (as in seat), not Holy Sea (as in water)...
- jasondavies 4mo agoExcellent point. I've removed Vatican City from the map for now, as it is entirely enclosed by another capital city (Rome) and so its Voronoi cell will be tiny.
- maybewhenthesun 4mo agoVery nice. I guess most dutchies would disagree with the decision to pick De Hague as the Main Capital, though :-) While all power is in De Hague , Amsterdam definitely is the Capital. De Hague is for complaining about, Amsterdam is for celebrating.
- jasondavies 4mo agoFixed. It was originally Amsterdam, but I was experimenting with resolving ambiguous capitals by using the de facto seat of government, based on other feedback here (e.g. South Africa originally had multiple capitals). I've switched back to the more familiar atlas capital in ambiguous cases.
- Beretta_Vexee 4mo agoPerhaps you should limit it to capital cities or states with a certain population size. Including all the European microstates does not seem appropriate to me; Andorra, Monaco, San Marino and the Vatican have very varying degrees of independence and geopolitical significance.
- zamadatix 4mo agoRegardless of how one selects states there will always be comments saying it was done wrong. Don't fall into this trap, just stick with one of the UN lists as has already been done here (looks like members+recognized observer states) and accept not everyone can be perfectly pleased with what is considered a state or not. Interactive data filters would definitely be fun on its own account though. E.g. the population slider or by having a button making it the largest cities above x population instead of countries/capitals or so on with centers of states. It looks like there are several different maps on this site, such things may make it more a single experience with more overall value than the separated parts. Still cool as it is though :) just one possibility to go further with it.
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- spprashant 4mo agoIt took me this map to realize the capital of Sri Lanka is Sri Jayawardenepura Kotte, and not Colombo as I thought for over 30 years. Always interesting to find capital cities which are in fact not the most famous cities from that country. Makes for great trivia questions.
- THX1137 4mo agoNot quite - it's somewhat like South Africa in that certain institutions are in Colombo and others in Kotte (specifically the legislature is in Kotte). In addition, Kotte and Colombo are nearly adjacent.
- zamadatix 4mo ago@jasondavies, if you're still taking small enhancement requests - a fullscreen button (for the visualization, not the whole page) would be fabulous
- dimview 4mo agoLooks like it uses seven colors (including bodies of water). Can it be done with fewer colors? The four color theorem does not quite apply, as all bodies of water have to be the same color.
- zamadatix 4mo agoI don't know who would be more upset - the UK for losing so much to Ireland or France for losing a little bit to the UK.
- f137 4mo agoSuppose right before this re-bordering takes place, the countries are given the chance to change the capitals' location. Suppose further that they all do it to maximize the area after re-bordering. I wonder how much the result will differ?
- CGMthrowaway 4mo agoWell, this was a creative way of solving Iran's blockade of the Strait of Hormuz!