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Crazy to see the Twitter behavior here of really smart, well conveyed top level comments replied to by weird propaganda pushing bottom feeders.

by Drupon 4mo ago

solenoid0937 4mo ago
HN discussion quality has deteriorated dramatically, especially for anything AI related.
- lionkor 4mo ago
  I suspect this is due to fatigue. I admit I often post low quality replies under AI slop posts, simply because flagging them does nothing when they are somehow upvoted above and beyond anything human made. This fatigue also causes a lot of readers to skip the AI threads, meaning less self-moderation of the forum through voting.
  - discreteevent 4mo ago
    No, it's bots. When it comes to AI the HN community is now the mark.
- xyzal 4mo ago
  Mind that the host of this site has an interest in keeping the hype going on ...
  - infecto 4mo ago
    And? Continue down your conspiracy theory please.
- etempleton 4mo ago
  One of my indices of mania. You saw similar comments for crypto, blockchain, NFT, VR.
  - n_e 4mo ago
    Unfortunately it's not limited to the trendy topics. For example there is a huge amount of factually wrong comments on the topic of npm vulnerabilities. I'm sure it's the same on topics I know less about.
    - etempleton 4mo ago
      I think there are also people who understand the technology but overestimate potential impact. I remember someone at the Apple Vision Pro announcement arguing that this would be one of Apple’s biggest products and everyone would want them for taking photos and videos of their kids birthdays and such because it would be so much more natural than pulling out a camera and they just couldn’t be talked out of it. Sometimes a technology can be really cool and never catch on. Sometimes a technology can be really popular anbd even world changing and never make much if any money.
  - cryo32 4mo ago
    One of the reasons my account is so young is that I went through each of those on HN and decided fuck it and nuked my credentials so I don’t have to stare at it. There again now.
- infecto 4mo ago
  Sadly you are absolutely correct. The quality has nosedived in the past 1-2 years. I am not sure the exact cause but one of the things I noticed is a massive uptick in users who have insane post counts with sub 1-2 year history. Breaking the rules but it does feel very much like Facebook or Reddit where there are distinct hive minds on topics and it just becomes a pissing match between brain-dead individuals.
- arkadiytehgraet 4mo ago
  It specifically has deteriorated because of the people like you, who peddle unfounded AI-hype while being on the payroll of one of the major labs and not disclosing it properly. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48270186 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48270186 for more information. Also, how would you even know the deterioration? You have been barely 2 years on this website. Once again you gave away your shill nature.
kortilla 4mo ago
The top level comments are not smart or well conveyed, they are just the other side of the internet echo chamber. “Good, the rich don’t need money”, etc. I think Elon owned companies are just a third rail for any kind of intelligent discussion because it turns into Elon fan boys arguing against Elon haters.
- infecto 4mo ago
  I think you pierced the hearts of Elon haters/fan boys and are getting downvoted. Absolutely agree with your statement. Most top comments are just upvoted from the hivemind. Elon topics are always the worst because nobody even uses critical thinking and will just upvote/downvote based on the theme of Elon = Good or Bad.
  - JoshTko 4mo ago
    So what's your intelligent argument as to why SpaceX's deserves an exception? Please lay out a case that's comessurate to the gravity of such an exception
    - infecto 4mo ago
      You missed the plot and are only reinforcing the point. Where in my comment was I saying SpaceX deserves an exception? I am just stating what I observe anytime Elon or one of his companies comes up, it devolves into the extremes. Sorry you fall into that trap.
      - owebmaster 4mo ago
        It's just a coincidence that whatever Elon does impacts the life of millions of people.

Crazy to see the Twitter behavior here of really smart, well conveyed top level comments replied to by weird propaganda pushing bottom feeders.

by Drupon 4mo ago

Crazy to see the Twitter behavior here of really smart, well conveyed top level comments replied to by weird propaganda pushing bottom feeders.

solenoid0937 4mo ago

HN discussion quality has deteriorated dramatically, especially for anything AI related.

lionkor 4mo ago
I suspect this is due to fatigue. I admit I often post low quality replies under AI slop posts, simply because flagging them does nothing when they are somehow upvoted above and beyond anything human made. This fatigue also causes a lot of readers to skip the AI threads, meaning less self-moderation of the forum through voting.
- discreteevent 4mo ago
  No, it's bots. When it comes to AI the HN community is now the mark.
xyzal 4mo ago
Mind that the host of this site has an interest in keeping the hype going on ...
- infecto 4mo ago
  And? Continue down your conspiracy theory please.
etempleton 4mo ago
One of my indices of mania. You saw similar comments for crypto, blockchain, NFT, VR.
- n_e 4mo ago
  Unfortunately it's not limited to the trendy topics. For example there is a huge amount of factually wrong comments on the topic of npm vulnerabilities. I'm sure it's the same on topics I know less about.
  - etempleton 4mo ago
    I think there are also people who understand the technology but overestimate potential impact. I remember someone at the Apple Vision Pro announcement arguing that this would be one of Apple’s biggest products and everyone would want them for taking photos and videos of their kids birthdays and such because it would be so much more natural than pulling out a camera and they just couldn’t be talked out of it. Sometimes a technology can be really cool and never catch on. Sometimes a technology can be really popular anbd even world changing and never make much if any money.
- cryo32 4mo ago
  One of the reasons my account is so young is that I went through each of those on HN and decided fuck it and nuked my credentials so I don’t have to stare at it. There again now.
infecto 4mo ago
Sadly you are absolutely correct. The quality has nosedived in the past 1-2 years. I am not sure the exact cause but one of the things I noticed is a massive uptick in users who have insane post counts with sub 1-2 year history. Breaking the rules but it does feel very much like Facebook or Reddit where there are distinct hive minds on topics and it just becomes a pissing match between brain-dead individuals.
arkadiytehgraet 4mo ago
It specifically has deteriorated because of the people like you, who peddle unfounded AI-hype while being on the payroll of one of the major labs and not disclosing it properly. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48270186 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48270186 for more information. Also, how would you even know the deterioration? You have been barely 2 years on this website. Once again you gave away your shill nature.

kortilla 4mo ago

The top level comments are not smart or well conveyed, they are just the other side of the internet echo chamber. “Good, the rich don’t need money”, etc. I think Elon owned companies are just a third rail for any kind of intelligent discussion because it turns into Elon fan boys arguing against Elon haters.

infecto 4mo ago
I think you pierced the hearts of Elon haters/fan boys and are getting downvoted. Absolutely agree with your statement. Most top comments are just upvoted from the hivemind. Elon topics are always the worst because nobody even uses critical thinking and will just upvote/downvote based on the theme of Elon = Good or Bad.
- JoshTko 4mo ago
  So what's your intelligent argument as to why SpaceX's deserves an exception? Please lay out a case that's comessurate to the gravity of such an exception
  - infecto 4mo ago
    You missed the plot and are only reinforcing the point. Where in my comment was I saying SpaceX deserves an exception? I am just stating what I observe anytime Elon or one of his companies comes up, it devolves into the extremes. Sorry you fall into that trap.
    - owebmaster 4mo ago
      It's just a coincidence that whatever Elon does impacts the life of millions of people.