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Notepad++ v8.9.6.4 Tiananmen Massacre Commemoration

65 points by chao- 4mo ago

chao- 4mo ago
Context: Notepad++ was compromised last year by a PRC state-sponsored group: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/hijacked-incident-info-update/ https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/hijacked-incident-info-up... This is not purely a cosmetic release, as it does contain a few fixes.
- gradientsrneat 4mo ago
  This is not the first time a Notepad++ release has supported human rights causes in China. For example, here is "Notepad++ Stand with Hong Kong Edition": https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/v789-stand-with-hong-kong/ https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/v789-stand-with-hong-kong... And here's "Notepad++ v7.8.1 : Free Uyghur": https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/v781-free-uyghur-edition/ https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/v781-free-uyghur-edition/ In the latter (earlier) case, the Notepad++ issue tracker was bombarded by Chinese spam in response. The Notepad++ releases have supported other causes too like "Je Suis Charlie", so special releases aren't confined to Chinese topics. Seems like they are concerned about free speech causes especially. https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/v674-je-suis-charlie-edition/ https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/v674-je-suis-charlie-edit...
- JohnTHaller 4mo ago
  Also worth remembering that all of us had to deal with China attacking Github and taking it mostly offline for quite a while 11 years ago. China used the great firewall of China to inject a malicious script into Baidu analytics javascript files. Every website outside of China that used Baidu analytics wound up serving those infected file to every visitor. All of those visitors were then reloading two Github projects over and over. The two projects were designed to allow Chinese citizens to view uncensored news from the NY Times and from the greater internet. Never incorporate third party Javascript, CSS, images, etc served from a server within China through their great firewall in anything you do.
__patchbit__ 4mo ago
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- graemep 4mo ago
  > The West's Christian media are largely silent What Christian media? Western mass media is mostly secular.
  - senderista 4mo ago
    Having known some Palestinian Christians, typical evangelicals in the US don't give a damn about their suffering.
    - Joker_vD 4mo ago
      Pfft, those are wrong sort of Christians, y'know.
    - hluska 4mo ago
      What are you talking about and how is that related to western media being primarily secular?
  - __patchbit__ 4mo ago
    To my mind the West is Christian since when before the wars after 2003 and the followup mass influx dangerous immigration. And, the West's Christian mass media did used to cover power less biased to or blinded by the Zionists of the present.
    - graemep 4mo ago
      Western mass media has not been Christian in any meaningful sense for many decades. Much of the ruling class has not been more than nominally Christian for much longer. Maybe less true in the US than in Europe, certainly true in the UK. Even in the US there has been a lot of talk about Christianity, but very little actual influence on policy: and certainly not enough influence to motivate economic change or adopting Christian policies towards the poor. The best known Victorian novel about Christmas does not refer to the birth of Jesus at all! Can you imagine someone from England a centuries earlier writing a Christmas story without Christian references? At best you are thinking about Christian culture rather than the actual religion, but Western culture retains a huge amount of Christian influence so I would not say that is a thing of the past.
snvzz 4mo ago
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- Floppyrom 4mo ago
  Go you!
- 4fterd4rk 4mo ago
  Yes those bastards with their stances on checks website Russian aggression against Ukraine and Chinese human rights abuses.
  - ge96 4mo ago
    I still think it's crazy Mao with the 60M to 1 KD ratio celebrated
- hluska 4mo ago
  Good for you. Is there a point to that?
- add-sub-mul-div 4mo ago
  Life is easier when ideas don't make you uncomfortable.
- jubilanti 4mo ago
  Open source and free software has always had a healthy dose of both politics and cringe. If the people volunteering their labor want to name a release after something they care deeply about -- politics, sci-fi characters, furries, whatever -- because that's what helps keep them motivated, then that's their right. And you have a right to fork or use other products if it's just too cringe for you to handle. Enjoy kate.
- teejmya 4mo ago
  "If you don't f*ck with politics, politics will f*ck with you"
  - 4mo ago
hd4 4mo ago
just now seen one such comment in this thread get flagged/removed but the Gaza genocide is always conspicuous by its absence in these discussions; conspiracy of silence on this needs to end if we are to entertain the notion that we're serious about the other human rights issues being brought up otherwise the hypocrisy just gives you whiplash. the selective outrage is just so galling.
xyzsparetimexyz 4mo ago
That image (and moreso the video) is interesting in how much people read into it. Hard to really know the man's intentions tbh.
alimbada 4mo ago
So many in the software world pretend to care about human rights for some kind of credibility that they're good people. I've seen Ukrainian flags all over GitHub on many profiles or repos but the same people will be silent on the atrocities happening in Gaza, Lebanon, etc. Notepad++ left a sour taste in my mouth when they did the same and now they're "commemorating" something that happened decades ago rather than call attention to what's happening now. Edit: here comes the Hasbara brigade with the downvotes.
- F3nd0 4mo ago
  You can care about some issues more than you care about others, or only speak out against some of them. I don’t think anyone is (or can be reasonably expected to be) speaking out about every single atrocity happening in the world. That doesn’t mean they don’t care about human rights. People are nuanced. It’s not all or nothing.

65 points by chao- 4mo ago

chao- 4mo ago

Context: Notepad++ was compromised last year by a PRC state-sponsored group: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/hijacked-incident-info-update/ https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/hijacked-incident-info-up... This is not purely a cosmetic release, as it does contain a few fixes.

gradientsrneat 4mo ago
This is not the first time a Notepad++ release has supported human rights causes in China. For example, here is "Notepad++ Stand with Hong Kong Edition": https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/v789-stand-with-hong-kong/ https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/v789-stand-with-hong-kong... And here's "Notepad++ v7.8.1 : Free Uyghur": https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/v781-free-uyghur-edition/ https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/v781-free-uyghur-edition/ In the latter (earlier) case, the Notepad++ issue tracker was bombarded by Chinese spam in response. The Notepad++ releases have supported other causes too like "Je Suis Charlie", so special releases aren't confined to Chinese topics. Seems like they are concerned about free speech causes especially. https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/v674-je-suis-charlie-edition/ https://notepad-plus-plus.org/news/v674-je-suis-charlie-edit...
JohnTHaller 4mo ago
Also worth remembering that all of us had to deal with China attacking Github and taking it mostly offline for quite a while 11 years ago. China used the great firewall of China to inject a malicious script into Baidu analytics javascript files. Every website outside of China that used Baidu analytics wound up serving those infected file to every visitor. All of those visitors were then reloading two Github projects over and over. The two projects were designed to allow Chinese citizens to view uncensored news from the NY Times and from the greater internet. Never incorporate third party Javascript, CSS, images, etc served from a server within China through their great firewall in anything you do.

__patchbit__ 4mo ago

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graemep 4mo ago
> The West's Christian media are largely silent What Christian media? Western mass media is mostly secular.
- senderista 4mo ago
  Having known some Palestinian Christians, typical evangelicals in the US don't give a damn about their suffering.
  - Joker_vD 4mo ago
    Pfft, those are wrong sort of Christians, y'know.
  - hluska 4mo ago
    What are you talking about and how is that related to western media being primarily secular?
- __patchbit__ 4mo ago
  To my mind the West is Christian since when before the wars after 2003 and the followup mass influx dangerous immigration. And, the West's Christian mass media did used to cover power less biased to or blinded by the Zionists of the present.
  - graemep 4mo ago
    Western mass media has not been Christian in any meaningful sense for many decades. Much of the ruling class has not been more than nominally Christian for much longer. Maybe less true in the US than in Europe, certainly true in the UK. Even in the US there has been a lot of talk about Christianity, but very little actual influence on policy: and certainly not enough influence to motivate economic change or adopting Christian policies towards the poor. The best known Victorian novel about Christmas does not refer to the birth of Jesus at all! Can you imagine someone from England a centuries earlier writing a Christmas story without Christian references? At best you are thinking about Christian culture rather than the actual religion, but Western culture retains a huge amount of Christian influence so I would not say that is a thing of the past.

snvzz 4mo ago

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Floppyrom 4mo ago
Go you!
4fterd4rk 4mo ago
Yes those bastards with their stances on checks website Russian aggression against Ukraine and Chinese human rights abuses.
- ge96 4mo ago
  I still think it's crazy Mao with the 60M to 1 KD ratio celebrated
hluska 4mo ago
Good for you. Is there a point to that?
add-sub-mul-div 4mo ago
Life is easier when ideas don't make you uncomfortable.
jubilanti 4mo ago
Open source and free software has always had a healthy dose of both politics and cringe. If the people volunteering their labor want to name a release after something they care deeply about -- politics, sci-fi characters, furries, whatever -- because that's what helps keep them motivated, then that's their right. And you have a right to fork or use other products if it's just too cringe for you to handle. Enjoy kate.
teejmya 4mo ago
"If you don't f*ck with politics, politics will f*ck with you"
- 4mo ago

hd4 4mo ago

just now seen one such comment in this thread get flagged/removed but the Gaza genocide is always conspicuous by its absence in these discussions; conspiracy of silence on this needs to end if we are to entertain the notion that we're serious about the other human rights issues being brought up otherwise the hypocrisy just gives you whiplash. the selective outrage is just so galling.

xyzsparetimexyz 4mo ago

That image (and moreso the video) is interesting in how much people read into it. Hard to really know the man's intentions tbh.

alimbada 4mo ago

So many in the software world pretend to care about human rights for some kind of credibility that they're good people. I've seen Ukrainian flags all over GitHub on many profiles or repos but the same people will be silent on the atrocities happening in Gaza, Lebanon, etc. Notepad++ left a sour taste in my mouth when they did the same and now they're "commemorating" something that happened decades ago rather than call attention to what's happening now. Edit: here comes the Hasbara brigade with the downvotes.

F3nd0 4mo ago
You can care about some issues more than you care about others, or only speak out against some of them. I don’t think anyone is (or can be reasonably expected to be) speaking out about every single atrocity happening in the world. That doesn’t mean they don’t care about human rights. People are nuanced. It’s not all or nothing.