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The world saw Anthropic take a possibly company-killing risk wrt weaponizing their AI, and are rewarding them for holding to their values, for now at least. It

by Erem 4mo ago

The world saw Anthropic take a possibly company-killing risk wrt weaponizing their AI, and are rewarding them for holding to their values, for now at least. It’s not like anyone owes Sam Altman their business just bc their product has become slightly, perhaps temporarily, better

Jcampuzano2 4mo ago
Anthropic literally already works with companies like Palantir and others weaponizing their AI. Those just aren't quite as well known by the general public. They have no values that align with humans prospering.
- samrus 4mo ago
  Source on this? Does anthropic work with them or do they simply use the normal product offering anthropic provides? Because the thing with the DoD was specific RnD for DoD purposes. If someone just uses normal claude to make killer robots, i dont think thats on anthropic, that on the legal and regulatory system to step in and stop that
  - Jcampuzano2 4mo ago
    It literally takes a 2 second Google search of just the two terms Palantir and anthropic to find sources for this and is fairly well known. https://investors.palantir.com/news-details/2024/Anthropic-and-Palantir-Partner-to-Bring-Claude-AI-Models-to-AWS-for-U.S.-Government-Intelligence-and-Defense-Operations/ https://investors.palantir.com/news-details/2024/Anthropic-a... https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/12/karp-palantir-anthropic-claude-pentagon-blacklist.html https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/12/karp-palantir-anthropic-clau... https://www.reuters.com/technology/palantir-faces-challenge-remove-anthropic-pentagons-ai-software-2026-03-04/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/palantir-faces-challenge-... Any company of Palantir size is not just gonna have people using personal subscriptions to use Claude on mission critical software or it's development.
amazingamazing 4mo ago
Both companies don't mind weaponization. The difference is whether it should only be domestic. Both are ok with foreigners being bombed.
- DonsDiscountGas 4mo ago
  That aligns with average human values
- ethbr1 4mo ago
  Do you have a citation for that? Because the Anthropic's presentation of their position doesn't have a domestic or foreign caveat to autonomous weapons. It's a categorical no. https://www.anthropic.com/news/statement-department-of-war https://www.anthropic.com/news/statement-department-of-war
  - amazingamazing 4mo ago
    > We support the use of AI for lawful foreign intelligence and counterintelligence missions. But using these systems for mass domestic surveillance is incompatible with democratic values. Your link
    - ethbr1 4mo ago
      Yes. They draw that distinction on intelligence. I was asking about autonomous weapons. >> Both companies don't mind weaponization. The difference is whether it should only be domestic. Both are ok with foreigners being bombed.
Asraelite 4mo ago
I hate that this discussion is about OpenAI vs. Anthropic and not OpenAI+Anthropic vs. Google. Google put up so little of a fight against the DoW for their use of Gemini that we didn't even hear about it. They are clearly the worst of the evils here, but OpenAI is the one getting all of the negative press.

by Erem 4mo ago

Jcampuzano2 4mo ago

Anthropic literally already works with companies like Palantir and others weaponizing their AI. Those just aren't quite as well known by the general public. They have no values that align with humans prospering.

samrus 4mo ago
Source on this? Does anthropic work with them or do they simply use the normal product offering anthropic provides? Because the thing with the DoD was specific RnD for DoD purposes. If someone just uses normal claude to make killer robots, i dont think thats on anthropic, that on the legal and regulatory system to step in and stop that
- Jcampuzano2 4mo ago
  It literally takes a 2 second Google search of just the two terms Palantir and anthropic to find sources for this and is fairly well known. https://investors.palantir.com/news-details/2024/Anthropic-and-Palantir-Partner-to-Bring-Claude-AI-Models-to-AWS-for-U.S.-Government-Intelligence-and-Defense-Operations/ https://investors.palantir.com/news-details/2024/Anthropic-a... https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/12/karp-palantir-anthropic-claude-pentagon-blacklist.html https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/12/karp-palantir-anthropic-clau... https://www.reuters.com/technology/palantir-faces-challenge-remove-anthropic-pentagons-ai-software-2026-03-04/ https://www.reuters.com/technology/palantir-faces-challenge-... Any company of Palantir size is not just gonna have people using personal subscriptions to use Claude on mission critical software or it's development.

amazingamazing 4mo ago

Both companies don't mind weaponization. The difference is whether it should only be domestic. Both are ok with foreigners being bombed.

DonsDiscountGas 4mo ago
That aligns with average human values
ethbr1 4mo ago
Do you have a citation for that? Because the Anthropic's presentation of their position doesn't have a domestic or foreign caveat to autonomous weapons. It's a categorical no. https://www.anthropic.com/news/statement-department-of-war https://www.anthropic.com/news/statement-department-of-war
- amazingamazing 4mo ago
  > We support the use of AI for lawful foreign intelligence and counterintelligence missions. But using these systems for mass domestic surveillance is incompatible with democratic values. Your link
  - ethbr1 4mo ago
    Yes. They draw that distinction on intelligence. I was asking about autonomous weapons. >> Both companies don't mind weaponization. The difference is whether it should only be domestic. Both are ok with foreigners being bombed.

Asraelite 4mo ago

I hate that this discussion is about OpenAI vs. Anthropic and not OpenAI+Anthropic vs. Google. Google put up so little of a fight against the DoW for their use of Gemini that we didn't even hear about it. They are clearly the worst of the evils here, but OpenAI is the one getting all of the negative press.