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> Being a U.S. ally no longer guarantees that you will be protected by the U.S. as Ukraine is seeing. How much more is the US supposed to do in Ukraine beyond
by brightball 5mo ago
> Being a U.S. ally no longer guarantees that you will be protected by the U.S. as Ukraine is seeing.
How much more is the US supposed to do in Ukraine beyond the $60-70 billion in weapons and supplies? Do we need to actually go to war with Russia?
- sobellian 5mo agoUkraine is still fighting. We don't need to send troops. We just need to keep sending weapons (Trump stopped this)
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- lux-lux-lux 5mo agoNew Ukraine aid effectively ended with the current administration, if you were unaware
- manphone 5mo agoOh, they were aware from the phrasing they ate implying that we’ve already spent enough and we should stop, which is exactly what Trump was saying and is totally stupid if you want the world not to be run by Vladimir Putin.
- drnick1 5mo agoIt did not, but the implicit U.S. policy is to help Ukraine just enough to maintain a stalemate and to keep Russia busy and unable to assist other countries like Cuba and Iran.
- lukan 5mo agoHow is the US aiding now, besides selling weapons? Intel probaly, but we don't know the exact arrangements there. And nothing like before.
- selivanovp 5mo ago[flagged]
- lostlogin 5mo agoWhat? The EU buys them but that’s a US expense?
- dadoum 5mo agoI think they are saying that the US is required to pay less than the EU? But that's not true based on what I can find anyway, https://app.23degrees.io/view/j4luMuv8fnpO2frL-bar-grouped-vertical-overtime_allocations https://app.23degrees.io/view/j4luMuv8fnpO2frL-bar-grouped-v...
- convolvatron 5mo agobased on a video clip I saws recently of Hegseth testifying to the Senate there is an additional ~4B of US military aid to Ukraine which was congressionally authorized some time ago, but still has yet to be distributed.
- jleyank 5mo agoWhat’s the word of the us on a treaty worth?
- noir_lord 5mo agoGiven the US threatened to annex territory of two NATO members in the last couple of years. A lot less to it’s allies than it was I’d suggest.
- marcus_holmes 5mo ago> Do we need to actually go to war with Russia? Yes. That's what everyone signed up to [0] when Ukraine gave up its Soviet-era nukes. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum
- mikestorrent 5mo agoGreat, more dead boys for nothing. As a Canadian, I think we've sacrificed enough generations for European brother wars. Given retrospect, wouldn't a land deal have been better than half a million dead? Wouldn't walking away from your house, maybe with a reparations package, be better than it being blown up by drones and your family killed? I don't think we need to go to war. We need to find a way to deal with Russia with humanity instead of treating them like some boomer-era cold war bogeyman.
- marcus_holmes 5mo agoAgree completely. But part of that would be getting Russia to stop attempting to become a cold-war boogeyman, and stop behaving like a cold-war boogeyman. Russia also signed that treaty, and is also blatantly breaking it.
- selivanovp 5mo ago[flagged]
- lostlogin 5mo agoIf the US did interfere, that’s poor. What do you think of Russian involvement in Ukrainian elections?
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- mcdonje 5mo agoSeems like you're claiming Ukraine's 2014 "Revolution of Dignity" and subsequent democratic elections were something the USA did. That's a controversial claim, and one that ignores the recorded actions and sentiments of the Ukrainian people. It's also unrealistic and gives the US too much credit. The US does have their hands in pies across the globe, but that was a large scale uprising of Ukrainian people. No outside force can make something like that happen if the people aren't already aligned. The simpler explanation is the Ukrainian people wanted to be closer to the EU, and didn't like Yanukovych's authoritarian tendencies. I wouldn't be surprised if some propaganda blamed it on the US, but it doesn't make sense. If the US wanted to do regime change and the public wasn't behind it, it would look very different. There are unfortunately many examples.
- digitaltrees 5mo agoHow about $600 billion. Since when did the US say we are just going to let russia win because we don’t want to spend the money? What happened to “These colors don’t run” republicans? Oh wait it was BS all along. Got it.
- watwut 5mo agoIt is supposed to deliver arms European countries literally paid for. Second, USA should not negotiate for Russia nor help them. They are doing both.
- GJim 5mo ago> How much more is the US supposed to do in Ukraine beyond the $60-70 billion in weapons and supplies? sigh 800 Patriot missiles were used within the first 3 days in the Iran war. This is greater than the total number of Patriot missiles received by Ukraine during the entire war with Russia. Your orange president is displaying some funny priorities.