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Grok is very defensive of Elon's role in the current Ebola outbreak. However if you push on Elon impacting Ebola monitoring, it will eventually admit that Elon'

by jmpman 5mo ago

Grok is very defensive of Elon's role in the current Ebola outbreak. However if you push on Elon impacting Ebola monitoring, it will eventually admit that Elon's DOGE cancelled "some" Ebola prevention efforts very briefly, but in reality many Ebola related contracts and programs were not fully restored. "Surveillance capacity in eastern DRC weakened, contributing to the current Bundibugyo Ebola strain circulating undetected for an estimated 6–8 weeks before confirmation."

ceejayoz 5mo ago
A while back "oops, we accidentally canceled ebola monitoring" was a White House press conference laugh line made by Musk, in fact. https://x.com/factpostnews/status/2056461616162431323 https://x.com/factpostnews/status/2056461616162431323
- mentalgear 5mo ago
  Fking Billionaire Wackos are going to be the death of all of us (while they will escape to their New Zealand underground bunkers staffed with robot servants).
e12e 5mo ago
I was curious if the basic ai chatbots behaved differently - been a while since I tried the same prompt across models..: Apparently Gemini is the late night news anchor: https://g.co/gemini/share/3504289b8dc8 https://g.co/gemini/share/3504289b8dc8 Chatgpt the art critic: https://chatgpt.com/share/6a11e80e-523c-83ea-9a1b-03329f860c03 https://chatgpt.com/share/6a11e80e-523c-83ea-9a1b-03329f860c... And grok somewhat of an apologist: https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA_4071d2b9-ae39-43cc-abf1-cda968c02c2e https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA_4071d2b9-ae39-43cc-abf1-cd...
WarmWash 5mo ago
I understand the need for charity, and we should be doing it to support these countries. But I don't see how to logically make the connection that when you pull that charity back, you are now responsible for any crisis. That is exactly the argument that people who are against foreign aid make. Like I will help you walk and feed your dog if you can't all the time, but if I stop doing that and your dog gets sick, that's not my fault and I'm not a bad person.
- ceejayoz 5mo ago
  How you pull it back matters. Why you were doing it in the first place matters, too.
- SpicyLemonZest 5mo ago
  You're mixing up different "you"s. If the American legislature got together and passed a law saying the American people just don't want to do so much foreign aid anymore, that would be a hard call. But that's not what happened. Elon Musk, a random rich guy who was not himself financing the charity, appointed himself dictator of all American spending programs. He promised his patron that he would make the government run more efficiently, but found himself unable to. Then he went around randomly breaking charitable programs in an attempt to prove that his failed government efficiency initiative was producing meaningful outcomes. That's why he is accountable (and will be held accountable) for the people his decisions have killed.
  - jdlshore 5mo ago
    > (and will be held accountable) Is this just a rhetorical flourish? I’m not up on the details, but it seems like Musk just screwed things up and walked away scot-free. What path do you see for him actually being held accountable for the damage he caused?
    - SpicyLemonZest 5mo ago
      In 2029, there will be a new AG who I hope will make a firm commitment to prosecute Musk and other Trump officials for their crimes. I won't vote for anyone who doesn't promise to extract some level of accountability, although I could imagine being persuaded by an argument that letting Musk skate will allow us to ensure that someone else gets the sentence they deserve.
- dnqthao 5mo ago
  It is not charity, these are to protect the US against these diseases. Do you think it will stay there and will not come to US shore?
rafram 5mo ago
Why are you writing about / thinking about the things an AI model said to you? It’s an LLM trained heavily on Elon tweets and pro-Elon internet content. Of course it’s going to say nice things about Elon. It’s an LLM, not some kind of oracle. It seems like the existence of a massive Ebola outbreak is more worthy of discussion than some random LLM output related to it!
- slg 5mo ago
  > It’s an LLM trained heavily on Elon tweets and pro-Elon internet content. I get what you're saying and generally agree with the overall point, but this specific aspect makes it worth remarking that even the model trained to be pro-Elon concedes Elon is at fault.
- jmpman 5mo ago
  I have a theory that you're less likely to be sued by Musk if you're quoting his LLM's statements about him.

by jmpman 5mo ago

ceejayoz 5mo ago

A while back "oops, we accidentally canceled ebola monitoring" was a White House press conference laugh line made by Musk, in fact. https://x.com/factpostnews/status/2056461616162431323 https://x.com/factpostnews/status/2056461616162431323

mentalgear 5mo ago
Fking Billionaire Wackos are going to be the death of all of us (while they will escape to their New Zealand underground bunkers staffed with robot servants).

e12e 5mo ago

I was curious if the basic ai chatbots behaved differently - been a while since I tried the same prompt across models..: Apparently Gemini is the late night news anchor: https://g.co/gemini/share/3504289b8dc8 https://g.co/gemini/share/3504289b8dc8 Chatgpt the art critic: https://chatgpt.com/share/6a11e80e-523c-83ea-9a1b-03329f860c03 https://chatgpt.com/share/6a11e80e-523c-83ea-9a1b-03329f860c... And grok somewhat of an apologist: https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA_4071d2b9-ae39-43cc-abf1-cda968c02c2e https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA_4071d2b9-ae39-43cc-abf1-cd...

WarmWash 5mo ago

I understand the need for charity, and we should be doing it to support these countries. But I don't see how to logically make the connection that when you pull that charity back, you are now responsible for any crisis. That is exactly the argument that people who are against foreign aid make. Like I will help you walk and feed your dog if you can't all the time, but if I stop doing that and your dog gets sick, that's not my fault and I'm not a bad person.

ceejayoz 5mo ago
How you pull it back matters. Why you were doing it in the first place matters, too.
SpicyLemonZest 5mo ago
You're mixing up different "you"s. If the American legislature got together and passed a law saying the American people just don't want to do so much foreign aid anymore, that would be a hard call. But that's not what happened. Elon Musk, a random rich guy who was not himself financing the charity, appointed himself dictator of all American spending programs. He promised his patron that he would make the government run more efficiently, but found himself unable to. Then he went around randomly breaking charitable programs in an attempt to prove that his failed government efficiency initiative was producing meaningful outcomes. That's why he is accountable (and will be held accountable) for the people his decisions have killed.
- jdlshore 5mo ago
  > (and will be held accountable) Is this just a rhetorical flourish? I’m not up on the details, but it seems like Musk just screwed things up and walked away scot-free. What path do you see for him actually being held accountable for the damage he caused?
  - SpicyLemonZest 5mo ago
    In 2029, there will be a new AG who I hope will make a firm commitment to prosecute Musk and other Trump officials for their crimes. I won't vote for anyone who doesn't promise to extract some level of accountability, although I could imagine being persuaded by an argument that letting Musk skate will allow us to ensure that someone else gets the sentence they deserve.
dnqthao 5mo ago
It is not charity, these are to protect the US against these diseases. Do you think it will stay there and will not come to US shore?

rafram 5mo ago

Why are you writing about / thinking about the things an AI model said to you? It’s an LLM trained heavily on Elon tweets and pro-Elon internet content. Of course it’s going to say nice things about Elon. It’s an LLM, not some kind of oracle. It seems like the existence of a massive Ebola outbreak is more worthy of discussion than some random LLM output related to it!

slg 5mo ago
> It’s an LLM trained heavily on Elon tweets and pro-Elon internet content. I get what you're saying and generally agree with the overall point, but this specific aspect makes it worth remarking that even the model trained to be pro-Elon concedes Elon is at fault.
jmpman 5mo ago
I have a theory that you're less likely to be sued by Musk if you're quoting his LLM's statements about him.