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He moves around quite a bit. Less than 2 years on average if you take away the longest and shortest jobs. It feels like this is just a celebrity hire to help ra

by 1970-01-01 5mo ago

He moves around quite a bit. Less than 2 years on average if you take away the longest and shortest jobs. It feels like this is just a celebrity hire to help raise IPO value, and then he'll move again when the tech hits another real-world scaling wall. Expect another short stint (stunt) with Anthropic.

renecito 5mo ago
rest & vest if he makes it to IPO
- Yajirobe 5mo ago
  I wonder what's his net worth - probably 100M+?
  - seattle_spring 5mo ago
    didn't FB grant someone else $1B over 4 years or something for some AI lead role? Wouldn't be surprised if this guy is getting similar offers, which could explode even further with the stratospheric valuations of top AI companies.
  - United857 5mo ago
    He’s a founder of OpenAI —- likely a billionaire if he held on to his share
    - trollbridge 5mo ago
      It's still quite interesting to me how a founder of a nonprofit can become a billionaire by having shares in it.
      - nikcub 5mo ago
        Because they later founded a for-profit to raise the capital required in the AI talent and compute race.
  - modeless 5mo ago
    I have to imagine that Anthropic is giving him an equity grant worth $1B or more in their upcoming IPO. And having him will increase their market cap more than that, if for no other reason than that people trust him as a judge of who is winning the AI race. So it's already worth it even before he does any work.
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Rover222 5mo ago
5 years at Tesla is an eternity in the tech world. And 2 years is probably pretty average for the whole tech industry.
- prerok 5mo ago
  Depends on the country, I guess. In Europe, it would definitely not be the norm and I would definitely call previous employers if it was several 2 year stints.
  - gambiting 5mo ago
    If you're really in Europe then I'm sure you know that calling previous employers is completely pointless, the best you'll get is "yes this person has worked here before". And I work in games and 2-3 years at each company is pretty normal, with some exceptions people just finish a project and then move(or are let go, unfortunately). YMMV of course.
    - prerok 5mo ago
      Depends, but definitely not pointless. Though, I do have the benefit of working in a small country, so chances are that I will know of the company and perchance know folks that work there. Even if not, employers will still see fit to help each other, at least if they are not direct competitors.
    - johnnyanmac 5mo ago
      > I work in games and 2-3 years at each company is pretty normal, with some exceptions people just finish a project and then move(or are let go, unfortunately). YMMV of course. Yeah, being laid off every 2-3 years is a lot different from job hopping and shows exactly why the games industry is in its own little pocket of screwed in this market. Especially with games taking 3-5+ years to be made. How do you keep institutional knowledge when you kick it all out and basically start from scratch every cycle. -sincerely, another game dev
  - FabCH 5mo ago
    While I absolutely confirm that everything you said is true, it’s interesting that that call would be illegal in many European countries. And in many more you would at best get a „I can confirm this person worked on this position in this timeframe“
clear-octopus 5mo ago
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Aaronneyer 5mo ago
Even if that's true, 2 years is a huge amount of time to make real impact right now. By 2 years, we could have a clear winner of the AGI/ASI race.
- tsunamifury 5mo ago
  This is such a disappointing reality that people believe this. 1) advancements in AI are made by large teams of brilliant people (and individuals who take outsized credit) 2) AGI is defintionless buzz word 3) advancements in AI will need significant changes in either how the model works or fundamentally new non existent datasets.
  - bpodgursky 5mo ago
    lol this is just not true sorry. Claude code was one person's idea as a pet project and now it's singlehandedly 5x'd Anthropic's valuation. Sometimes single people matter, that's life.
    - HarHarVeryFunny 5mo ago
      I think both are true. Claude Code was one man's experimental project, but it's an application of AI, not AI itself. Anthropic is a large company, with thousands of employees, and seems to be 100% (maybe 200%) LLM and scale pilled. All the advances from one model generation to the next are the result of dozens of experiments first at small scale then at larger scale, all competing for the same "development compute" portion of their overall "development + inference" compute resource. In this environment, even if there are researchers who have ideas not on the "LLM + scale is all you need" path that Dario seems hell bent on, there seems to be not much chance that these ideas can compete for resources and compute with the mainstream experiments that the company believes their future depends on. Maybe an individual developer like Sutskever, engaged purely in research rather than manning a barely turnable oil tanker, can make a difference, but at a company like Anthropic it seems way less likely. Cherny's baby is 100% aligned with Anthropic's mission of selling LLM tokens. Someone else fighting the mission, trying to pivot Anthropic in a new better direction is not likely to have such luck.
tty456 5mo ago
Interesting methodology
blazespin 5mo ago
yes, pure engagement farmer. Marketing yourself is a big part of the biz these days. Thanks, social media

renecito 5mo ago

rest & vest if he makes it to IPO

Yajirobe 5mo ago
I wonder what's his net worth - probably 100M+?
- seattle_spring 5mo ago
  didn't FB grant someone else $1B over 4 years or something for some AI lead role? Wouldn't be surprised if this guy is getting similar offers, which could explode even further with the stratospheric valuations of top AI companies.
- United857 5mo ago
  He’s a founder of OpenAI —- likely a billionaire if he held on to his share
  - trollbridge 5mo ago
    It's still quite interesting to me how a founder of a nonprofit can become a billionaire by having shares in it.
    - nikcub 5mo ago
      Because they later founded a for-profit to raise the capital required in the AI talent and compute race.
- modeless 5mo ago
  I have to imagine that Anthropic is giving him an equity grant worth $1B or more in their upcoming IPO. And having him will increase their market cap more than that, if for no other reason than that people trust him as a judge of who is winning the AI race. So it's already worth it even before he does any work.
- deleted 5mo ago
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Rover222 5mo ago

5 years at Tesla is an eternity in the tech world. And 2 years is probably pretty average for the whole tech industry.

prerok 5mo ago
Depends on the country, I guess. In Europe, it would definitely not be the norm and I would definitely call previous employers if it was several 2 year stints.
- gambiting 5mo ago
  If you're really in Europe then I'm sure you know that calling previous employers is completely pointless, the best you'll get is "yes this person has worked here before". And I work in games and 2-3 years at each company is pretty normal, with some exceptions people just finish a project and then move(or are let go, unfortunately). YMMV of course.
  - prerok 5mo ago
    Depends, but definitely not pointless. Though, I do have the benefit of working in a small country, so chances are that I will know of the company and perchance know folks that work there. Even if not, employers will still see fit to help each other, at least if they are not direct competitors.
  - johnnyanmac 5mo ago
    > I work in games and 2-3 years at each company is pretty normal, with some exceptions people just finish a project and then move(or are let go, unfortunately). YMMV of course. Yeah, being laid off every 2-3 years is a lot different from job hopping and shows exactly why the games industry is in its own little pocket of screwed in this market. Especially with games taking 3-5+ years to be made. How do you keep institutional knowledge when you kick it all out and basically start from scratch every cycle. -sincerely, another game dev
- FabCH 5mo ago
  While I absolutely confirm that everything you said is true, it’s interesting that that call would be illegal in many European countries. And in many more you would at best get a „I can confirm this person worked on this position in this timeframe“

clear-octopus 5mo ago

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Aaronneyer 5mo ago

Even if that's true, 2 years is a huge amount of time to make real impact right now. By 2 years, we could have a clear winner of the AGI/ASI race.

tsunamifury 5mo ago
This is such a disappointing reality that people believe this. 1) advancements in AI are made by large teams of brilliant people (and individuals who take outsized credit) 2) AGI is defintionless buzz word 3) advancements in AI will need significant changes in either how the model works or fundamentally new non existent datasets.
- bpodgursky 5mo ago
  lol this is just not true sorry. Claude code was one person's idea as a pet project and now it's singlehandedly 5x'd Anthropic's valuation. Sometimes single people matter, that's life.
  - HarHarVeryFunny 5mo ago
    I think both are true. Claude Code was one man's experimental project, but it's an application of AI, not AI itself. Anthropic is a large company, with thousands of employees, and seems to be 100% (maybe 200%) LLM and scale pilled. All the advances from one model generation to the next are the result of dozens of experiments first at small scale then at larger scale, all competing for the same "development compute" portion of their overall "development + inference" compute resource. In this environment, even if there are researchers who have ideas not on the "LLM + scale is all you need" path that Dario seems hell bent on, there seems to be not much chance that these ideas can compete for resources and compute with the mainstream experiments that the company believes their future depends on. Maybe an individual developer like Sutskever, engaged purely in research rather than manning a barely turnable oil tanker, can make a difference, but at a company like Anthropic it seems way less likely. Cherny's baby is 100% aligned with Anthropic's mission of selling LLM tokens. Someone else fighting the mission, trying to pivot Anthropic in a new better direction is not likely to have such luck.

tty456 5mo ago

Interesting methodology

blazespin 5mo ago

yes, pure engagement farmer. Marketing yourself is a big part of the biz these days. Thanks, social media