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Great film, I thought. The ending is quite dark—and then Colossus tells Forbin that he will come to love him… Turns out it is prescient. The film was based on
by JKCalhoun 5mo ago
Great film, I thought. The ending is quite dark—and then Colossus tells Forbin that he will come to love him…
Turns out it is prescient. The film was based on the first book of a trilogy. You can look up the plot of the following two novels if you want spoilers, but indeed, Forbin does have a reconsideration of Colossus.
I would love to see the whole trilogy filmed.
- qsera 5mo ago>I would love to see the whole trilogy filmed. Just hope that it is not Christopher Nolan.
- WillPostForFood 5mo agowhy?
- ndsipa_pomu 5mo agoI would guess that's due to Nolan focussing on great visuals rather than the underlying ideas. I did enjoy The Prestige, but often his stories become somewhat nonsensical e.g. Inception's plot doesn't really make any sense when you look into the characters' motivations etc.
- IshKebab 5mo agoYeah half of his films are super flashy and quite watchable but you really have to turn your brain off to avoid thinking "what? that makes no sense" constantly. Inception, Tenet & Interstellar at least.
- PaulHoule 5mo ago… and turn on the subtitles ‘cause they can’t be bothered to mix for legibility. It’s suicide, that’s what it is. For years the American culture industry has the advantage on its home court that people in other countries would watch our movies with subtitles but Americans wouldn’t watch other countries’ movies with subtitles. Now the sound mixing of American films has gotten so bad that Americans have been trained to watch with the subtitles on and once you do you might as well watch Italian crime dramas or subprime anime on Tubi.
- georgeecollins 5mo agoPerhaps because these movies were mixed for theaters with very specific digital sound setups and now lots of people see them for the first time at home.
- layer8 5mo agoNo, it’s the same issue in theaters.
- PaulHoule 5mo agoTo be fair, the problem of matching to soundtracks to people's real listening environments is not entirely solved. That is, back in the DVD a lot of DVDs had a weak 5.1 mix because it was designed to sound OK if you played it back on a 2-channel system so you wouldn't really use the center channel. Then in the Blu-Ray age they got more aggressive with the 5.1 track at risk that you'd miss the dialog if your settings weren't right. So on top of movies that aren't legible in the theater there is plenty of trouble that comes up in the mixing for home theater.
- IshKebab 5mo agoYeah I've seen them in theatres. Doesn't really help.
- qsera 5mo agoTraditional action movies: Turn off your brains and have fun. Christopher Nolan movies: Turn off your brains, and at the same time feel intellectual/smart!
- zzzbra 5mo agoNolan makes cerebral films for dumb people. I find most of them to be entertaining and fun, but they do lean a bit too much into profundity as a vibe without a whole lot of actual substance.
- qsera 5mo ago>dumb people I think these are not "dumb" people. Being nerd is cool now, there is a subset of population who want to be "nerdy/intellectual" without being genuinely interested in stuff and putting in work that is required to be a "nerd/intellectual". Nolan, knowingly or unknowingly, understands this and make very budget constrained wannabe blockbusters by tapping into this demographic.
- ideonode 5mo agoThe trilogy of books are interesting, but there is some very dubious sexual exploitation as an entirely unnecessary plot point.
- zimpenfish 5mo ago> there is some very dubious sexual exploitation as an entirely unnecessary plot point. Taking the thinnest of fair slivers, I think that's reasonably common in pre-(80s?90s?00s?) sci-fi/fantasy.
- FrustratedMonky 5mo ago"entirely unnecessary plot point" Are you sure it is dubious? Woman used as sexual party favors still happens in real life today. Since it is a common weakness, why can't an AI exploit that. Some might say our own government is now in control of a foreign government, purely on exploiting that weakness. So it is realistic tactic.
- zimpenfish 5mo ago> Are you sure it is dubious? You'd have to ask 'ideonode who actually said that, not me.
- TMWNN 5mo ago> The film was based on the first book of a trilogy. Although I think the film is even better than the book by D. F. Jones, only the latter mentions how, despite being created specifically for US national defense, Colossus is also fed unrelated data including Shakespeare's sonnets, because its creators do not know if it could be important.