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So all I gotta do is eat some poop and it will save me from becoming a handsome, funny, unique genius?

by davisr 5mo ago

n64controller 5mo ago
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- simonklitj 5mo ago
  Source please? I’m seeing M75/F77 w/o learning disability, and M72/F70 w/ learning disability: https://www.autism.org.uk/learn/knowledge-hub/professional-practice/research-life-expectancy-of-uk-autistic-people https://www.autism.org.uk/learn/knowledge-hub/professional-p...
  - roywiggins 5mo ago
    imho part of the communication problem is that a 6 year reduction actually is large, but it doesn't sound large. Smoking takes about 10 years off your life, and it's deadly in a very mechanical and understood way.
    - simonklitj 5mo ago
      Yeah, I’m not disputing that, and it’s worth a lot of consideration and research. But, it’s quite far from 36 years.
- loloquwowndueo 5mo ago
  Source?
quux 5mo ago
You don't eat it, don't be silly.... you stick the poop up your butt
- saalweachter 5mo ago
  I believe the best procedure is actually sticking it in your nose. (They run a tube through your nose, down your throat, through the stomach to the top of the intestines, and introduce the bacterial slurry there.)
  - someguyiguess 5mo ago
    Pretty sure there’s a shorter path to the top of the intestines than through the nose but I’m no Biologist.
    - tyre 5mo ago
      If you’re implying it is through the rectum, you’ve definitely got some bio to brush up on. The small intestine alone is >20ft long.
    - dacops 5mo ago
      There really isn't. From the mouth is basically the same distance and it contains teeth and a tongue. Through the rectum is much much much farther through meters of intestine. Through the skin creates a surgical hole that's going to be difficult to keep sterile. The shortest safe path is via the nostril.
  - throw310822 5mo ago
    Makes you wonder how hard would it be to just put it in a swallowable capsule that dissolves only in the upper intestine. Also, "fecal transplant" is marketable only to weirdos. "Probiotic infusion" would work better. For those who want to gain some artistic talent, there's this (but is expensive): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist's_Shit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist's_Shit
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LoganDark 5mo ago
Well no, what they're saying is it seems to be capable of reducing autism-related struggles and misbehavior, not that it can somehow remove autism. Truly removing autism in any meaningful way is probably impossible since the brain was trained with it since birth.
- roywiggins 5mo ago
  No, that appears to be the implication of this study, which frankly seems like such a large effect that I'm pretty skeptical! I'd say "where's the control group" except the claimed effect is so large that you kind of don't need one, if it's real: > Prior to the study, 83% of participants had "severe" autism. Two years later, only 17% were rated as severe, 39% as mild or moderate, and incredibly, 44% were below the cut-off for mild ASD. Emphasis mine. If you are below the cutoff for mild ASD you wouldn't be diagnosed at all.
  - saalweachter 5mo ago
    That was the study without a control; for the placebo controlled study, they don't give the numbers, just say "statistically significant improvements" on several metrics. (Without a control group, you have questions about how people of that age generally progress, and what other treatment/therapies they receive over those 2 years. The phase 1 trial was with children whose parents presumably sought ever possible way to help them, while the placebo controlled phase 2 was adults who may have plateaued.)
  - LoganDark 5mo ago
    > If you are below the cutoff for mild ASD you wouldn't be diagnosed at all. That makes sense, since ASD is a disorder classification and is mainly relevant for treatment and benefits. Plenty of autistic people are not diagnosed with ASD. The article certainly could do more to differentiate between the autistic spectrum itself and the diagnosis of ASD, but as long as you know not to conflate the two, it seems perfectly clear to me.
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sleight42 5mo ago
Autism fetishism. This comment should be deleted.

So all I gotta do is eat some poop and it will save me from becoming a handsome, funny, unique genius?

by davisr 5mo ago

So all I gotta do is eat some poop and it will save me from becoming a handsome, funny, unique genius?

n64controller 5mo ago

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simonklitj 5mo ago
Source please? I’m seeing M75/F77 w/o learning disability, and M72/F70 w/ learning disability: https://www.autism.org.uk/learn/knowledge-hub/professional-practice/research-life-expectancy-of-uk-autistic-people https://www.autism.org.uk/learn/knowledge-hub/professional-p...
- roywiggins 5mo ago
  imho part of the communication problem is that a 6 year reduction actually is large, but it doesn't sound large. Smoking takes about 10 years off your life, and it's deadly in a very mechanical and understood way.
  - simonklitj 5mo ago
    Yeah, I’m not disputing that, and it’s worth a lot of consideration and research. But, it’s quite far from 36 years.
loloquwowndueo 5mo ago
Source?

quux 5mo ago

You don't eat it, don't be silly.... you stick the poop up your butt

saalweachter 5mo ago
I believe the best procedure is actually sticking it in your nose. (They run a tube through your nose, down your throat, through the stomach to the top of the intestines, and introduce the bacterial slurry there.)
- someguyiguess 5mo ago
  Pretty sure there’s a shorter path to the top of the intestines than through the nose but I’m no Biologist.
  - tyre 5mo ago
    If you’re implying it is through the rectum, you’ve definitely got some bio to brush up on. The small intestine alone is >20ft long.
  - dacops 5mo ago
    There really isn't. From the mouth is basically the same distance and it contains teeth and a tongue. Through the rectum is much much much farther through meters of intestine. Through the skin creates a surgical hole that's going to be difficult to keep sterile. The shortest safe path is via the nostril.
- throw310822 5mo ago
  Makes you wonder how hard would it be to just put it in a swallowable capsule that dissolves only in the upper intestine. Also, "fecal transplant" is marketable only to weirdos. "Probiotic infusion" would work better. For those who want to gain some artistic talent, there's this (but is expensive): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist's_Shit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist's_Shit
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LoganDark 5mo ago

Well no, what they're saying is it seems to be capable of reducing autism-related struggles and misbehavior, not that it can somehow remove autism. Truly removing autism in any meaningful way is probably impossible since the brain was trained with it since birth.

roywiggins 5mo ago
No, that appears to be the implication of this study, which frankly seems like such a large effect that I'm pretty skeptical! I'd say "where's the control group" except the claimed effect is so large that you kind of don't need one, if it's real: > Prior to the study, 83% of participants had "severe" autism. Two years later, only 17% were rated as severe, 39% as mild or moderate, and incredibly, 44% were below the cut-off for mild ASD. Emphasis mine. If you are below the cutoff for mild ASD you wouldn't be diagnosed at all.
- saalweachter 5mo ago
  That was the study without a control; for the placebo controlled study, they don't give the numbers, just say "statistically significant improvements" on several metrics. (Without a control group, you have questions about how people of that age generally progress, and what other treatment/therapies they receive over those 2 years. The phase 1 trial was with children whose parents presumably sought ever possible way to help them, while the placebo controlled phase 2 was adults who may have plateaued.)
- LoganDark 5mo ago
  > If you are below the cutoff for mild ASD you wouldn't be diagnosed at all. That makes sense, since ASD is a disorder classification and is mainly relevant for treatment and benefits. Plenty of autistic people are not diagnosed with ASD. The article certainly could do more to differentiate between the autistic spectrum itself and the diagnosis of ASD, but as long as you know not to conflate the two, it seems perfectly clear to me.
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sleight42 5mo ago

Autism fetishism. This comment should be deleted.