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I know some that was told to try and use AI more on the job so they created some agent to just burn tokens and ended up using about 10x what the next highest em
by isk517 5mo ago
I know some that was told to try and use AI more on the job so they created some agent to just burn tokens and ended up using about 10x what the next highest employee used. Buddy expected to get shit but instead got an accolade and was asked to give a short talk to the other employees about how they could match their success.
- dominotw 5mo agoi call BS on this story
- elictronic 5mo agoThey polished the turd more than stating, but the bones are real.
- re-thc 5mo agoI call AI on this comment
- DANmode 5mo agoI don’t. Things that rhyme with this have indeed been happening at the biggest names.
- mrandish 5mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law
- aspensmonster 5mo ago>This article is about statistics and government policy. For Nazi analogies in internet discussions, see Godwin's law.
- zeroonetwothree 5mo agoI have seen similar at my company so it is highly plausible.
- mrgoldenbrown 5mo agoIf you've never seen this level of perverse incentive, you have been lucky. The creation of and subsequent exploitation of them aren't new. For pre computer examples: https://freakonomics.com/podcast/the-cobra-effect-2/ https://freakonomics.com/podcast/the-cobra-effect-2/
- breppp 5mo agoThe worse example I know is the time the Belgians forced the Congolese to harvest more rubber by cutting their hands if they haven't reached the correct quota, ensuing a cross-tribe hands trading economy
- wayeq 5mo ago> cross-tribe hands trading sounds like they had some cross cutting concerns </dad>
- NicoJuicy 5mo agoBelgians had nothing to do with that, nor the then governement The king had a side biz
- breppp 5mo agoSimilar to the British in India, it was first controlled by some kind of company that benefitted the host country by extracting resources, and later on the host country took control. Belgium took control of Congo in 1908
- NicoJuicy 5mo agoIt was literally the king that wanted it as personal venture. Belgium took over because he was very/too bad ( you're right that the governement was involved, I stand corrected). Healthcare and infrastructure was then build too, but the relation was already scarred and well, it's not easy to reset everything.
- runako 5mo ago
- bensyverson 5mo agoI call unintended consequences on this KPI culture
- robotswantdata 5mo agoI believe it
- darth_avocado 5mo agoIn my first job ever, I used to get my work done on time and leave. There were a few people who’d stay in the office until late and show up on weekends. Same output, but they got the promotions and my bonus got prorated. This is the same thing.
- j-bos 5mo agoAt least this one doesn't require spending the manhours moving dung from pocket to pocket, now we finally get credit for automating it!
- jazz9k 5mo agoWhile output may have been part of it. It's possible that by staying later (and working longer), they had better relationships with upper management. "I used to get my work done on time and leave" This sounds like you just wanted to get your work done and not foster any work relationships. This is fine, but you will not get promoted this way (as you've seen). Moving up in a company is 30% work and 70% networking/being likelable/noticed. I stopped that nonsense years ago. I work for myself now as a consultant. If I work more, I get paid more.
- Loughla 5mo agoI took a job with the state I live in recently because friends were promoted over competent employees (not even counting myself in that because they were just promoted to my level). New job is fully remote and has a clear path to advancement based on clear work based metrics. While it may be true that it's pretty standard, I'm convinced that any organization that relies more on face time and friendships than on actual skill is absolutely toxic.
- jimbokun 5mo agoIt’s also a workplace whose success is in the past and has started the glide down into lower profits, revenue and wages.
- reactordev 5mo ago
- bonesss 5mo agoThat’s the part I don’t get: Engineers are smart enough to ask an LLM to ask other LLMs to ask other LLMs to load the policy manual then count the R’s in “LLM fork bomb”. Additional story points completed per week, versus token-dollar spent, or some such combo would seem more sane. But maybe they aren’t really tracking productivity, so tracking tokens is all they have? … I dunno which part of that is dumber.
- idle_zealot 5mo agoWe never figured out how to track productivity anyway. Only macro-level success in achieving measurable goals. Any AI metric besides "are similar goals being met more quickly" is people encouraging specific behaviors decided a priori.
- jimbokun 5mo agoWe need an Office Space 2 just about AI shenanigans.
- andrekandre 5mo agooffice space 2... i need this injected into my veins right now lol
- happymellon 5mo agoThe AI problems are still the same problems. > We need to talk about your flair