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Classic 7 is a Windows 10 LTSC mod to look 1:1 to Windows 7
- vintagedave 5mo agoI love this kind of thing but feel really worried when I can't see source.
- tomaytotomato 5mo agoLooks like the repo is here - https://github.com/Classic7-Mod/WindowsOOBERecreation https://github.com/Classic7-Mod/WindowsOOBERecreation The repo is only 8 months old, which could be seen as good or bad.
- datfrojo 5mo agoThat is only the out of box experience but the whole thing
- izacus 5mo agoI think you'll need to slowly make peace with the fact that people don't want their work stolen by AIs.
- DaSHacka 5mo agoIronic, considering that this whole project is built upon stealing the design of Windows 7
- applfanboysbgon 5mo agoDon't think it's really accurate to describe restoring an old theme to an OS as "stealing". It would be stealing if they made their own OS using the Win7 theme.
- networked 5mo agoYou don't need to make peace with it. You have no obligation to accept a greater risk of malware than before. If anything, you should be more cautious because AI helps attackers. (We don't actually know if this has anything to do with AI training.)
- izacus 5mo agoNoone owes you free software at your requirements :)
- pseudalopex 5mo agoNo one said anyone owed them anything.
- anthk 5mo agoThis can create both incompatibilities and use more resources than Windows 7 itself.
- KeplerBoy 5mo agoIt's just a skin. Of course it uses more resources than windows 7.
- sunaookami 5mo agoWindows 11 itself uses more resources than Windows 7 ;)
- theletterf 5mo agoCan we have something similar for macOS (to turn the UI to Mac OS 9)?
- pointlessone 5mo agoI would even take any Leopard/Lion.
- MaxikCZ 5mo agoI just want my brightness/volume indicator back in the middle of my screen without fluffy graphics.... :( I dont know why it isnt even a power-user option....
- bambax 5mo agoAt work I am made to use Windows 11 and I hate it immensely. Everything's so slow. Nothing operates properly. In addition to forced reboots which are annoying as hell, it also reboots after some time on sleep, for no reason whatsoever. Copilot is everywhere and cannot be truly disabled without admin rights. While not strictly a Windows issue, Outlook is an incredible piece of garbage. It doesn't know if it's running and so can be launched more than once; the icon for new messages doesn't show when it should; search is still as broken as ever; the ribbon, which makes little sense in other Office apps, is absurd in Outlook; folders are useless and confusing; etc. At home, while I have a Mac Mini 4, a MacBook Air, and several Linux boxes, I still use an old PC on Win7 as my primary machine. Is it insecure? Probably. But today "insecure" feels more like a feature than a limitation. No forced updates of anything => everything that works, keeps working indefinitely.
- edg5000 5mo agoHow large is the company you work at? I'm guessing large. What is the general sentiment across layers in the company? My guess is everybody hates it (all layers)?
- bambax 5mo agoIt's a client of mine; the IT department is extremely small (fewer than 5) but the company has maybe 500 employees total? Since I work there, I've not heard anyone complain specifically about their computer or the Windows version. Most people don't care / don't know better, they just use what they're given.
- ieee2 5mo agoI work with Windows 11 and don't see any major issue whatsoever. But note that 16GB RAM is "just" enough to run it smoothly. 32GB is better for serious (e.g development) work. I have run it even on Intel 4200U/4200M CPUs fine (CPU is from year 2014). I agree that new Outlook is buggy and not fully functional - that's why I still use old native MS Outlook.
- arethuza 5mo ago
- Imustaskforhelp 5mo agocan something like this happen for linux, I would love to see a linux desktop environment like windows 7 for windows 8 on linux, there's this: https://github.com/er-bharat/Win8DE https://github.com/er-bharat/Win8DE
- xhevahir 5mo agoThere's a lot of them. Just search for Frutiger Aero on GitHub.
- unleaded 5mo agohttps://gitgud.io/aeroshell/atp/aerothemeplasma https://gitgud.io/aeroshell/atp/aerothemeplasma
- Zardoz84 5mo agoThere is a huge pletora of themes for KDE and Gnome to imitate OSX, Windows 95/98, XP, Vista/7, etc...
- blobcat 5mo ago> can something like this happen for linux For win9x/win2k style this is really neat: https://codeberg.org/Sliver_X/Redmond97-SE https://codeberg.org/Sliver_X/Redmond97-SE
- monegator 5mo agoI'd rather have KDE on windows 10. Or, better, the whole lot of tiny UX improvements kde has (all the visual/audio controls, the system settings that make sense and are not buried withing 4-5 menus, things like that)
- cosmic_cheese 5mo agoThere aren’t any 1:1 recreations as far as I know, just themes of varying levels of quality. It’s a missed opportunity in my opinion, “here’s an accurate Win2K/XP/7 replica desktop that you get to keep forever” is a strong pitch for Linux for a lot of potential users. It has massive nostalgia appeal but is also practical because it signals to users that they won’t need to learn any new UI bits or behaviors and that they’ll be comfortable right away. It removes a lot of the spookiness of switching that comes with even the most Windows-like DEs like KDE.
- rie_t 5mo agoI really do miss the design of Windows 7 and the apps of that era (think Office 2007 style) I hope it comes back
- londons_explore 5mo agoOffice 2007 was the last time someone had a vision and fully executed it. Every design refresh since then has been half finished and pushed out the door with too many bits of the old left.
- wolvoleo 5mo agoYes like the control panel. They've been at it for 10 years and there's still random bits of the old one appearing.
- dosisking 5mo ago"Please do not power off your machine. Installing update 1 of 100." I definitely prefer XP over 7. No automatic updates."
- avazhi 5mo agoHave you never used Group Policy?
- notabotiswear 5mo agoAutomatic updates are not bad. Quite the opposite, it’s the lack of automatic patching that is dangerous. Win10/11’s problem isn’t auto updates, it’s the severely reduced user agency in the matter (and the quality of said updates, but that’s another story).
- throwway120385 5mo agoAuto updates are bad for a user's sense of control over their machine. Auto updates are generally good for security.
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- insumanth 5mo agoI have used windows 7 since it launched and moved to 10 & 11. I like some design elements of windows 7, but I would absolutely not use it today. If you think, "I should try this", Any reason why? I'm really curious to know
- hulitu 5mo ago> Any reason why? The 2d design of modern interfaces is terrible. Everything looks like a "Label". Scrollbars are terrible. Light gray on dark gray. And, worst of all, they need 3d acceleration to draw a bloody 2d label.
- orphea 5mo agoAnd, worst of all, they need 3d acceleration to draw a bloody 2d label Disagree it's worst of all. Why should a specialized piece of hardware not render labels? Even tosters have some GPU cores these days.
- GuinansEyebrows 5mo agowhy would i want a toaster rendering anything but hot bread?
- hulitu 5mo agoThey do. It is 3d borders that they are strugling with. And borders bigger than 1px are impossible. /s
- mk_stjames 5mo agoEveryone seems to love the Windows 7 era but for me, Windows peaked GUI-wise with Windows 2000 and everything since then has felt like a poor 'skin' or misplaced 'theme' on top of something else. Windows XP's level of 'plug and play' for devices/drivers ushered in the modern OS feel from a usability standpoint, but from a 'get-shit-done' GUI and responsiveness standpoint Win 2000 (and up to Windows Server 2003 by extension) was all I ever wanted/needed. These may be rose tinted glasses though, and I'd be interested to hear counterpoints.
- bananaboy 5mo agoYeah I agree too. I never understood the love for the win7 aesthetic!
- pelagicAustral 5mo agoAgree, that 2000/Millennium aesthetic was absolutely peak design and usability.
- qsort 5mo agoSame here, Windows 2000 is peak UI, I never liked the Frutiger Aero aesthetics. My only criticism is that it was, in a sense, too successful and elements like the taskbar and start menu got ossified and the design stagnated. Apple's F3 show all windows, F4 spotlight is far better. Windows didn't even get multiple desktops until Windows 10. I guess I like the design language but I wouldn't be prepared to give back the usability of modern UIs.
- anthk 5mo agoFrutiger Aero was never called like that. It was just a non-copycat gloss theme cleraly inspired from OSX' Aqua design. Even KDE3 did that for some time (Everaldo/Crystal icons, Keramik...) were rounded, glossy designs were hip and transparencies with XRender were everywere. Both desktops tried to create someting shiny without being too close to Mac OS X. TBH KDE has better themes like the Slick icon set and plain but contrasted widget and menu themes, kinda like the semi-flat theme from Office 2003 (was it the .Net theme?) or something like that, which was modern but not baroque and overloaded like Keramik or XP's silver theme with too many gradients. That style would modernized would be several times than the unusable flat themes from today. Kinda like Zukitre for GTK2/3/4 under GNU/Linux and BSD desktops (ad QT5/6 being set to match the GTK3/4 themes under the settings).
- squeedles 5mo agoThe Win7 UI was comfortable, and still configurable enough that I could make the tool work for me rather than having to work for the tool. I'd be more interested if it brought back the performance of Win7. That OS was released into a world that still had HDD boot drives and had to pay attention to the details. I still run a Win7 machine that boots in under ten seconds. Sadly no extension can bring either of those back and we are unlikely to see anything along those lines from MS ever again.
- rexthonyy 5mo agoI still have a windows 7 system from 16 years ago. Works great.
- theanonymousone 5mo agoSorry for being (slightly?) off-topic: Is there a decent way to buy this LTSC edition of Windows?
- aleph_minus_one 5mo ago> Is there a decent way to buy this LTSC edition of Windows? If you are a student or work at a supported educational institution: I think Windows 11 Education is to my knowledge basically identical to Windows 11 Enterprise (at least for Windows 10, this was the case). In these versions, you can use LTSC updates if you want.
- toast0 5mo agoThere's two flavors of Windows for Education. One is more or less Windows Professional, the other is more or less Windows Enterprise. Both disable some stuff by default, I think the Microsoft Store and Clippy/Cortana/Copilot, maybe some other things... But you can do that with policy editor too.
- noisem4ker 5mo agoIt depends on your definition of "decent". Legal: yes, simple: maybe not. Search in past threads.
- jaharios 5mo agoJust use the well know script to activate it and send a donation to MS or something. The margin of profit from individual keys is nothing. (Can I post the link, to the open source repo? Is it against the rules? I mean MS owns github and has no problem hosting it)
- nathanmills 5mo agohttps://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts
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- andy800 5mo ago2 applications: StartAllBack and Winaero Tweaker are both lifesavers, as far as I'm concerned. Both allow you to customize the look and feel of different elements so you can run the latest Windows 11 but still preserve elements of the traditional UI's - classic Start Menu, analog clock (sounds quaint but it has a second hand and the calendar is much more responsive), different versions of Windows Explorer, etc.
- muterad_murilax 5mo agoMichael MJD published a video about it yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLecpASQacM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLecpASQacM
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- dartharva 5mo agoWill this get LTSC's security updates? I can seriously try this out as a daily driver if yes
- sinuhe69 5mo agoWhat I miss about Windows 7 is the total control over the system, not the GUI styling. In fact, some features of Windows 10+ are quite handy, for example the desktop tiles, windows corners or build-in virtual desktops. However, on Windows 7 you can set many things independently: windows caption bar size, menu font, message texts etc, which all require tweaking the registry in Windows 10+. Classic 7 is only a styling tool and it will not bring me back these settings and control.
- ck2 5mo agoactually Windows 7 has a special mode that turns off all aero entirely I cannot remember what it is called but makes it look almost like XP and the UI is very fast and crisp it's under System Properties -> Advanced -> Visual Effects -> Use visual styles on windows and buttons Windows 10 cannot do that, it cannot turn off visual system entirely
- billfor 5mo agoSimilarly I think Android 4 or 8 were the best UI for phones, and anything beyond 8 just gets in the way.
- jpalawaga 5mo agoFrom everything I've heard, running LTSC is not a good idea for a daily-driver pc. App support/compatibility is annoying and not guaranteed. I guess if you have a small set of unchanging apps that you use and that's all it could be a good pick. Interestingly, I hear a lot of people talk about LTSC, but few talking about their positive experiences. Is this the "I'm moving to Canada," of operating systems?
- vunderba 5mo agoIt's been great for me. I have a secondary PC that's been running Windows 10 LTSC IoT for 5 years now. I’m still getting security updates but nothing else (that's a feature to me). The only time I had an issue was when a DAW installer required me to upgrade to 22H2. I grabbed the enablement package directly and used the DISM tool to install it.
- lproven 5mo ago[[citation needed]] I tried it last year, was impressed, and have now moved all my Windows partitions to it. I don't use it much (mainly Mac and Linux here) but it does all I need and more. I have not seen a single problem. Everything I've tried works fine, even installing the Windows Store and a Store app. (Which then complained my GPU was inadequate and barfed, but it ran.)
- thr0w 5mo agoI run it, it's good other than WSL.
- hulitu 5mo ago> From everything I've heard, running LTSC is not a good idea for a daily-driver pc. With a bit of OOShut10, Windhawk, OoAppBuster and a bit of security policy (gpedit.msc) is bearable.
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- dmitrygr 5mo agoOnly a few years ago, i would have used this and donated some bucks for the effort. But apple silicon has made x86 laptops irrelevant, and i haven't owned a desktop in decades. Sad, since windows 7 is the second-best looking OS i've ever used (windows 2000 being first and macos 10.4 being third)
- mbirth 5mo agoThere’s also VxKex-NEXT[0] which adds the very few API calls W10 introduced to a Windows 7 to make it mostly compatible with W10 apps. [0]: https://github.com/YuZhouRen86/VxKex-NEXT https://github.com/YuZhouRen86/VxKex-NEXT