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Israel consistently flaunts international law, has been accused of war crimes by the Hague, and the UN has found it most likely has committed and continues to c

Israel consistently flaunts international law, has been accused of war crimes by the Hague, and the UN has found it most likely has committed and continues to commit genocide in Gaza. So I am not surprised that dealing with the country's Defense apparatus would lead to ethical concerns. Every international company should think twice about doing business with the Israeli government or companies rooted in defense and cybersecurity.

hersko 5mo ago
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- dpoloncsak 5mo ago
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  - hersko 5mo ago
    Nope [1], they actually hosted a 5k in Gaza. Can you imagine Holocaust survivors or Armenians during the genocide taking part in a 5k? I can't. Also, it is definitely not "by any modern definition" a genocide. Ireland is currently trying to broaden the definition of the term just to indict Israel [2] [1] https://ca.news.yahoo.com/palestine-marathon-returns-gaza-welcoming-090503377.html?guccounter=1 https://ca.news.yahoo.com/palestine-marathon-returns-gaza-we... [2] https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/409187 https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/409187
    - viccis 5mo ago
      People are allowed to attempt to live a life of dignity even while the entity and its defenders on HN are trying to wipe their people out.
    - _alternator_ 5mo ago
      Yes, I can. This is what being human is. You eat, sleep, laugh when you can, make plans with friends, fall in love, get married, and grieve when the people around you die. And there is a lot of grief in Gaza right now, but there are still living people and living people do nothing if not love one another. To suggest that genocide is only possible when there is no civil life, no humanity, nothing to live for, no I do not accept your definition. If you kill 10% of a population... does it only count as a crime against humanity if the rest of the population cannot even be human?
    - constantius 5mo ago
      Holocaust survivors did have art/dance/theatre events, and soccer/boxing competitions. In ghettos and in concentration camps. This was viewed as a triumph of the human spirit over the horrors of Nazism. These events are celebrated in countless books by survivors, exhibitions, and art installations. I dare you to find one survivor's account that does not mention these events. >90% of Gaza's infrastructure is destroyed, >90% of the population is displaced, no universities left, only one hospital with no equipment. These numbers are from several months ago, so you'll excuse me if I'm not keeping up with Israel's killing frenzy. That Gazans still can make art, enjoy a coffee, and do a 5k to raise awareness in a world that doesn't care is seen as victory over darkness by those who are caring about this catastrophe. Those who don't know anything about anything and use the smile of a child to screech "not a genocide!" should be ashamed of themselves.
    - rexpop 5mo ago
      Well, there was an "orchestra" in Auschwitz.
  - kgwgk 5mo ago
    Surprisingly, 5k races may happen in multiple places: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYM64Boqt9K/ https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYM64Boqt9K/
- rexpop 5mo ago
  It was held in the U.S., not in Gaza, at Nethermead Lawn in Prospect Park, Brooklyn. There are also other Gaza 5K events in U.S. cities, including Dallas and Milwaukee, depending on the year and location.
  - hersko 5mo ago
    They had one in Gaza.
    - rexpop 5mo ago
      When? Where? Citation needed.
      - sir0010010 5mo ago
        Nuseirat in Gaza on 2026 May 8
  - rexpop 5mo ago
    I stand corrected: https://apnews.com/photo-gallery/photos-palestinian-marathon-cef5ab548baf4285b8384c29f7f5aeec https://apnews.com/photo-gallery/photos-palestinian-marathon...
- _alternator_ 5mo ago
  Honestly it's difficult for me to respond to this comment because the premise is so clearly flawed. A semblance of civilian life does not mean genocide did not or is not taking place. Wholesale population displacement, destruction of a significant percentage of civilian structures, bombings, raids, land and sea blockades, statements from leaders that suggest genocidal intent... these point in the other direction. Would it only be genocide only if no child in Gaza was smiling? If no one was getting married, no one singing, no one relaxing amid the horror? Inhumanity of this level of extreme only occurs literally when everyone is dead. I guess that's the line you have in mind?
  - hersko 5mo ago
    "Wholesale population displacement, destruction of a significant percentage of civilian structures, bombings, raids, land and sea blockades," These are all things that happen during war. Explain why this war is different. All war is bad. I genuinely don't see how this is not a war but a genocide.
    - bhouston 5mo ago
      > "Wholesale population displacement..." > These are all things that happen during war. You do realize that Israeli government officials openly talk about permanent relocation (expel, "voluntary migration", emigration, etc) of Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza all the time: https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/smotrich-says-next-government-should-encourage-migration-of-palestinians-from-west-bank/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/smotrich-says-n... https://www.timesofisrael.com/occupy-expel-settle-minister-mks-at-far-right-rally-call-to-empty-gaza-of-gazans/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/occupy-expel-settle-minister-m... This woman was actually tasked with that job by Netanyahu: https://www.haaretz.com/gaza/2026-04-29/ty-article/.premium/source-netanyahu-adviser-led-push-for-voluntary-emigration-of-gazans/0000019d-d93a-d95a-afbd-f97a612a0000 https://www.haaretz.com/gaza/2026-04-29/ty-article/.premium/...
    - Supermancho 5mo ago
      I have questions. What do you think are the definitions of genocide and war? (why are they different words) Do they overlap?
- pnemonic 5mo ago
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  - bhouston 5mo ago
    Not a useful reply btw.
  - dang 5mo ago
    Please don't do this here. You've broken many of HN's guidelines by posting it, both explicit and implicit ones: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- artnanika 5mo ago
  What a bizarre thing to say, concentration camps during the Holocaust also had swimming pools and soccer fields (for the inmates as well), does that prove the Holocaust is a hoax? Swimming pools, soccer fields, and 5k events do not disprove ongoing genocides.
  - rodrodrod 5mo ago
    Let's not forget the 1936 Berlin Summer Olympics too. Public events don't disprove atrocities.
- b00ty4breakfast 5mo ago
  See, the thing that makes a genocide is all the dead people. The dead people who were killed by Israeli missiles and bombs. Or when they, the Israeli military, denied aid workers entry into the steaming heap of rubble that they, the Israeli military, created with their missiles and bombs. The steaming heap of rubble that used to be populated buildings that they, the Israeli military, bombed into powder whilst people were inside of them.

hersko 5mo ago

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dpoloncsak 5mo ago
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- hersko 5mo ago
  Nope [1], they actually hosted a 5k in Gaza. Can you imagine Holocaust survivors or Armenians during the genocide taking part in a 5k? I can't. Also, it is definitely not "by any modern definition" a genocide. Ireland is currently trying to broaden the definition of the term just to indict Israel [2] [1] https://ca.news.yahoo.com/palestine-marathon-returns-gaza-welcoming-090503377.html?guccounter=1 https://ca.news.yahoo.com/palestine-marathon-returns-gaza-we... [2] https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/409187 https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/409187
  - viccis 5mo ago
    People are allowed to attempt to live a life of dignity even while the entity and its defenders on HN are trying to wipe their people out.
  - _alternator_ 5mo ago
    Yes, I can. This is what being human is. You eat, sleep, laugh when you can, make plans with friends, fall in love, get married, and grieve when the people around you die. And there is a lot of grief in Gaza right now, but there are still living people and living people do nothing if not love one another. To suggest that genocide is only possible when there is no civil life, no humanity, nothing to live for, no I do not accept your definition. If you kill 10% of a population... does it only count as a crime against humanity if the rest of the population cannot even be human?
  - constantius 5mo ago
    Holocaust survivors did have art/dance/theatre events, and soccer/boxing competitions. In ghettos and in concentration camps. This was viewed as a triumph of the human spirit over the horrors of Nazism. These events are celebrated in countless books by survivors, exhibitions, and art installations. I dare you to find one survivor's account that does not mention these events. >90% of Gaza's infrastructure is destroyed, >90% of the population is displaced, no universities left, only one hospital with no equipment. These numbers are from several months ago, so you'll excuse me if I'm not keeping up with Israel's killing frenzy. That Gazans still can make art, enjoy a coffee, and do a 5k to raise awareness in a world that doesn't care is seen as victory over darkness by those who are caring about this catastrophe. Those who don't know anything about anything and use the smile of a child to screech "not a genocide!" should be ashamed of themselves.
  - rexpop 5mo ago
    Well, there was an "orchestra" in Auschwitz.
- kgwgk 5mo ago
  Surprisingly, 5k races may happen in multiple places: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYM64Boqt9K/ https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYM64Boqt9K/
rexpop 5mo ago
It was held in the U.S., not in Gaza, at Nethermead Lawn in Prospect Park, Brooklyn. There are also other Gaza 5K events in U.S. cities, including Dallas and Milwaukee, depending on the year and location.
- hersko 5mo ago
  They had one in Gaza.
  - rexpop 5mo ago
    When? Where? Citation needed.
    - sir0010010 5mo ago
      Nuseirat in Gaza on 2026 May 8
- rexpop 5mo ago
  I stand corrected: https://apnews.com/photo-gallery/photos-palestinian-marathon-cef5ab548baf4285b8384c29f7f5aeec https://apnews.com/photo-gallery/photos-palestinian-marathon...
_alternator_ 5mo ago
Honestly it's difficult for me to respond to this comment because the premise is so clearly flawed. A semblance of civilian life does not mean genocide did not or is not taking place. Wholesale population displacement, destruction of a significant percentage of civilian structures, bombings, raids, land and sea blockades, statements from leaders that suggest genocidal intent... these point in the other direction. Would it only be genocide only if no child in Gaza was smiling? If no one was getting married, no one singing, no one relaxing amid the horror? Inhumanity of this level of extreme only occurs literally when everyone is dead. I guess that's the line you have in mind?
- hersko 5mo ago
  "Wholesale population displacement, destruction of a significant percentage of civilian structures, bombings, raids, land and sea blockades," These are all things that happen during war. Explain why this war is different. All war is bad. I genuinely don't see how this is not a war but a genocide.
  - bhouston 5mo ago
    > "Wholesale population displacement..." > These are all things that happen during war. You do realize that Israeli government officials openly talk about permanent relocation (expel, "voluntary migration", emigration, etc) of Palestinians from the West Bank and Gaza all the time: https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/smotrich-says-next-government-should-encourage-migration-of-palestinians-from-west-bank/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/smotrich-says-n... https://www.timesofisrael.com/occupy-expel-settle-minister-mks-at-far-right-rally-call-to-empty-gaza-of-gazans/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/occupy-expel-settle-minister-m... This woman was actually tasked with that job by Netanyahu: https://www.haaretz.com/gaza/2026-04-29/ty-article/.premium/source-netanyahu-adviser-led-push-for-voluntary-emigration-of-gazans/0000019d-d93a-d95a-afbd-f97a612a0000 https://www.haaretz.com/gaza/2026-04-29/ty-article/.premium/...
  - Supermancho 5mo ago
    I have questions. What do you think are the definitions of genocide and war? (why are they different words) Do they overlap?
pnemonic 5mo ago
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- bhouston 5mo ago
  Not a useful reply btw.
- dang 5mo ago
  Please don't do this here. You've broken many of HN's guidelines by posting it, both explicit and implicit ones: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
artnanika 5mo ago
What a bizarre thing to say, concentration camps during the Holocaust also had swimming pools and soccer fields (for the inmates as well), does that prove the Holocaust is a hoax? Swimming pools, soccer fields, and 5k events do not disprove ongoing genocides.
- rodrodrod 5mo ago
  Let's not forget the 1936 Berlin Summer Olympics too. Public events don't disprove atrocities.
b00ty4breakfast 5mo ago
See, the thing that makes a genocide is all the dead people. The dead people who were killed by Israeli missiles and bombs. Or when they, the Israeli military, denied aid workers entry into the steaming heap of rubble that they, the Israeli military, created with their missiles and bombs. The steaming heap of rubble that used to be populated buildings that they, the Israeli military, bombed into powder whilst people were inside of them.