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Internet Archive Switzerland
https://internetarchive.ch/ https://internetarchive.ch/
- anant-singhal 5mo agoThe uncomfortable part is that “preserving knowledge” sounds universally good until copyright law present themselves.
- damnitbuilds 5mo ago"Its efforts will initially focus on [...] and collecting the generative AI wave that is currently upon us all." Why would they want to collect the AI wave ?! But about time the Internet Archive had a US-independent backup.
- kinow 5mo ago> But about time the Internet Archive had a US-independent backup. Agreed! > The Internet Archive Switzerland, online at https://internetarchive.ch/ https://internetarchive.ch/, is a newly-formed Swiss non-profit foundation that will operate independently within its national context. I think the Wikipedia Editors will have to decide whether they will add it to the existing page. The Operations section is still listing only U.S. data centers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Archive#Operations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Archive#Operations
- rbanffy 5mo agoI wonder how long does it take to back it up.
- userbinator 5mo agoThere are some real gems in the sea of slop; and as archivists and historians, they shouldn't moderate.
- Anamon 5mo agoI might be overlooking something, but is a mirror of the Internet Archive even mentioned as a plan anywhere here? It was my first thought after reading the headline, too, but the website only speaks of archiving LLMs and, vaguely, some other collections, but not, for instance, the Wayback Machine.
- Vasbarlog 5mo agoHugged to death? I can’t access the page.
- alessandroberna 5mo agoSeems likely, same for me.
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- Hendrikto 5mo agoSame for me. I cannot access it either.
- sixie6e 5mo agoI am able to.
- embedding-shape 5mo agoHave you tried just letting it load? Took maybe more than 30 seconds for the page to load for me, but it did load eventually.
- KomoD 5mo agoYep, just loading forever.
- AndroTux 5mo agoThey just want everyone coming from archive.org to feel right at home
- pedroneto3 5mo agoI am able too
- insom 5mo agoThat website is really struggling. Very tempting to go to a mirror on archive.org to view it :) This seems very distinct from Internet Archive in the US, I wonder how separate it is. Internet Archive Canada (I worked there in 2024) operated like it was a subsidiary, even though I think it was technically an independent organization with some shared directors. Same Slack, same archive.org email domain, etc. IA.ch has Brewster and Caslon on the board. I suspect that for the political threats of the current decade the different Internet Archive organisations need to start operating more independently, especially when it comes to funding?
- crossroadsguy 5mo agoThey use Slack? I am kind of surprised. But I am sure on the plus side, that would also mean having to worry about one less uptime.
- insom 5mo agoSlack, Zoom and Google Apps (but not for email) - otherwise basically everything was internally ran. The Slack has (had?) hundreds of guest accounts due to volunteers and allied organizations. It’s an interesting (and cool) institution!
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- Barbing 5mo agoAbbreviated internetarchive.ch ?
- catlikesshrimp 5mo agoURLs don't admit abbreviations. "url shorteners" are page redirects.
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- springtimesun 5mo agoAh, good, they are also mirroring the page load speed of the internet archive
- trvz 5mo agoTypical for something made in St. Gallen. A sensible web developer from Zurich interested in the topic would have created this website in just a single HTML and an optional CSS file.
- 4ggr0 5mo agoa dev from ZH would've added a blockchain, mobile app and hosted it on an over-allocated kubernetes cluster. 97% uptime and you need a macbook pro so the website doesn't stutter.
- shermantanktop 5mo agoA south-of-the-Limmat Migros shopper would use React and Vercel, but still use raw JS Date.
- dang 5mo agoNormally we'd reply with "please don't do regional flamewar on HN" but this sounds so good-humored to me that I've canceled the (no doubt well-intentioned) downvotes instead. Edit: now someone is going to tell me how mean internecine Swiss conflict actually is...
- slater 5mo agoThere's an entire ditch between the French-speaking and German-speaking parts of Switzerland, filled with Röschti to keep the two apart. True story!
- springtimesun 5mo agoAs someone who lives in Switzerland, but is not Swiss, I love this kind of thing. It’s an insight into an internal cultural understanding I didn’t get growing up and doesn’t really come up in the conversations I have day to day.
- input_sh 5mo agoRelevant blog post: https://blog.archive.org/2026/05/06/internet-archive-switzerland-expanding-a-global-mission-to-preserve-knowledge/ https://blog.archive.org/2026/05/06/internet-archive-switzer... > Internet Archive Switzerland joins a growing group of mission-aligned organizations, alongside Internet Archive, Internet Archive Canada, and Internet Archive Europe. Together, these independent libraries strengthen a shared vision: building a distributed, resilient digital library for the world.
- card_zero 5mo agoI was interested in the others, but https://www.internetarchive.eu https://www.internetarchive.eu is a horrible corporate-looking site with a hero image, a boast about AI, a carousel of news that won't scroll with doing its slow scroll animation, a huge "meet the team" section with mugshots and boring profiles, social media links, a newsletter signup form, and nothing to say where the actual archive is.
- carlosjobim 5mo agoReading what little information they have there, they aren't a public facing or public serving organization. They seem to provide their services to institutions only: "working with dozens of European libraries and government agencies to build web collections, Internet Archive Europe prioritized collaboration with cultural heritage organizations to safeguard our collective history."
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- badlibrarian 5mo agoInternet Archive runs a completely separate version of their site for paying institutional clients. https://archive-it.org/ https://archive-it.org/ In a best case scenario, this eventually becomes the replacement for the (lets be honest) absurdly awful archive.org front and backend. So: an expansion into the EU market. And yes, a honeypot for grant funds, because why not? Good for them.
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- red_admiral 5mo agoSankt Gallen's more physical archive is worth a visit too: https://www.stiftsbezirk.ch/de/stiftsbibliothek/ https://www.stiftsbezirk.ch/de/stiftsbibliothek/
- woodson 5mo agoIndeed. And the one in Admont, Austria: https://stiftadmont.at/en/about-the-abbey-library/ https://stiftadmont.at/en/about-the-abbey-library/
- DeadEye2111 5mo agoVery proud of my alma mater town to be a place for this. It’s much needed infrastructure for Europe.
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- zkmon 5mo agoAnything that is being built today, based on the assumptions about the future that extend into multiple years, is bound to fade away. Because the "future no longer what it used be". What's the envisaged future context and purpose where this would save the world?
- consumer451 5mo agoStop complaining about availability. Instead, create a solution. If tpb dot org can still exist ... At least these people tried. We need a p2p archive solution ASAP. Before our history is entirely re-written.
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- xp84 5mo agoI really want to reply exhorting you to do the same, so someone else can do the same to me, but this isn’t Reddit…
- consumer451 5mo agoMy comment is a call to arms. I have neither the technical nor financial abilities to address this problem. However, as one of the greatest technical collectives of all time, the users of this website might be capable of doing such a thing. This is likely the greatest challenge of our time.
- arjie 5mo agoI don’t think the problem lends itself well to decentralization. People have tried to use IPFS et al for this. There were even IA attempts https://github.com/internetarchive/dweb-gateway https://github.com/internetarchive/dweb-gateway No one has cracked this one yet.
- tylerchilds 5mo agoIt has been cracked. The internet itself is the thing we want. We’re just constantly in denial that the internet actually does the thing we want it to do. The internet archive is an excellent demonstration of how to do it. It’s primarily getting a ragtag group to pool resources and manage them and then gossip with other groups that are doing the same thing. I’ve spent so much time around the archive that I plainly see a divide between internet people online that can’t connect the dots and internet people in real life that are confused as to why the dots aren’t connecting. The easiest way to see the dots is to: 1. Stop trying to make money 2. Tally the things that cost money 3. Amortize the upkeep over time E.g. where do we source resources from, where do we store resources and how do we secure them. Like HTTP, but for physical materials, not digital.
- arian_ 5mo agoFinally a Swiss account I can afford to open.
- 1vuio0pswjnm7 5mo agohttps://web.archive.org/web/20260409034921if_/https://internetarchive.ch/ https://web.archive.org/web/20260409034921if_/https://intern...
- idovmamane 5mo agoSt Gallen has been archiving knowledge for over a thousand years. Now they are archiving AI models before they get retrained out of existence. The location is not a coincidence…
- ok123456 5mo agoWhere's the search bar at the top to search the archive?
- ukanhaupa 5mo agocool!
- imtomt 5mo agoHuh. I can’t find the actual... archive. It mentions an AI archive less than 10 sentences in, and has a couple of links, but seems void of any actually archived content.
- colinmegill 5mo agoIf you are running that thing, and reading this post: just do the right thing and get your own name.
- moontear 5mo agoUhm... https://blog.archive.org/2026/05/06/internet-archive-switzerland-expanding-a-global-mission-to-preserve-knowledge/ https://blog.archive.org/2026/05/06/internet-archive-switzer...
- colinmegill 5mo agoI guess I stand corrected, but I maintain it was word salad :)
- teew 5mo agoThe About Us section states: > We are a team of change-makers who believe that every helping hand can raise a child and create a better future for them. Which I found weird. And searching for this phrase yields many site-hits verbatim, which is even weirder. Anyone know what is up with that? Is it some kind of filler text? Edit: I guess it's from a template, the Contact section is also mumbo-jumbo (address: 123 Fifth Avenue, NY and so on).
- malicka 5mo agoThat doesn’t exactly instill confidence, honestly…
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- basilikum 5mo agohttps://web.archive.org/web/20260509154320/https://internetarchive.ch/ https://web.archive.org/web/20260509154320/https://interneta...
- miki123211 5mo agoIA needs to do what Usenet has done. Have a bunch of mission-aligned but unrelated orgs (under different ownership and distributed around the world) that peer with each other, distribute all the content obtained by any of the orgs to each other, but that have no technical channel nor capability to distribute DMCA complaints and takedown requests. This is (AFAIK) basically how Usenet piracy works. You send your warez to one provider, and that provider instantly replicates them to all the providers they peer with, recursively, until they eventually reach the entire network. When any of those providers get a DMCA complaint, they remove the offending files (as they're required to do by law), but they don't inform other providers that they've received a DMCA notice, so those providers keep serving those files. This makes it much harder to remove data from the network than it is to add it.
- y3ahd0g 5mo agoSo they should use bit torrent. IMO personal security would only be improved if we diversified away from "the open web". "Flood the field" with protocols and pre-shared key networks where we have to generate keys together in meat space, make it too expensive to operate the panopticon. Everyone putting their eggs in the open web basket, gathering in that public commons means all it takes is one bomb on us all, so to speak.
- LocalH 5mo agoBitTorrent allows untrusted users (read: industry plants) to connect and slurp down direct IP addresses to swarm participants. It's an unanswered legal question whether low-level uploading (such as the percentages one would get as a "leech", connecting to the torrent and then disconnecting immediately after completion) might fall under "fair use" or "fair dealing" statutes in various jurisdictions. US-centric here: I feel that uploading a small percentage of a file as a condition of downloading the whole thing may very well fall under fair use - most BT traffic is noncommercial, the portion of the covered work uploaded by "leeches" is very small and probably would be covered by the "30-second" rule often quoted in fair use discussions. The only really arguable point is the "effect on the work's value", but then again an average leech is not uploading enough of the work to have that much of a material effect on the work's value.
- latenightcoding 5mo ago>> Gen AI ARchive isn't this a nightmare for privacy
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- addedGone 5mo agoLet's hope they don't use Google captcha and KYC everyone.
- Animats 5mo agoOh, good. We need more backups. The one in Egypt doesn't get updated.
- kennykartman 5mo agoI'm so happy about this. Really. I cannot overstate how much important the internet archive is for all of us.
- jrochkind1 5mo ago> collecting the generative AI wave that is currently upon us all. I don't understand what this means?
- bl4ckneon 5mo agoI had the same thought. Does that mean they are archiving a bunch of Ai stuff? Doesn't sound right to me
- dopidopHN2 5mo agoI have a related question on the domain archive.org I've noticed that this domain now host content subject to copyright. As a example : entire season of startrek "voyager" are randomly hosted there in direct download. Why? Is that not a liability?
- hggh 5mo agoInternet Archive is a library. Libraries host copyrighted content. Libraries are good.
- badlibrarian 5mo agoLibraries license the content they host. Internet Archive didn't. And nearly got sued out of existence because of it.
- badlibrarian 5mo agoThey've always had tons of copyrighted material on there. People report it, sometimes they take it down. Sometimes they pick fights and lose. “We survived,” Internet Archive founder Brewster Kahle told Ars. “But it wiped out the Library.” https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/11/the-internet-archive-survived-major-copyright-losses-whats-next/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/11/the-internet-arc...
- butz 5mo agoOut of the frying pan into the fire?