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Society doesn't owe me over $500k/year for writing some instructions in a cryptic specification language. It's cool that I've been getting that, but I consider
by 01100011 5mo ago
Society doesn't owe me over $500k/year for writing some instructions in a cryptic specification language. It's cool that I've been getting that, but I consider that luck and circumstance. When robots take my job I'll go find something else to do. I'm not going to blame evil rich people or some other boogieman.
- 113 5mo agoYou are the rich people.
- stevenlangbroek 5mo agoNo, there's a difference between doing well for yourself and exploiting the labor of others to capture stupendous amounts of excess capital, then reinvesting part of that to make even more.
- 113 5mo agoOf course there is. The person I'm responding to is still rich though.
- ramon156 5mo agoIm a medior and I earn 42k/yr. It would be a privilege for me to earn this much, as I cannot afford a home.
- lproven 5mo ago> Im a medior I do not know that word. I looked it up and found nothing helpful. What does it mean, and what do you mean? Also, may I ask you to use more punctuation and things like currency symbols, because your message lacks so much context I can't even guess.
- kaashif 5mo agoSomething interesting: for me, that comment was the 6th Google result for "medior". Interesting term.
- 63stack 5mo agoThe first 3 hits on any search engine weren't relevant?
- boogierobis 5mo agoWhat I was going to ask as well, seems that people are getting dumber by the day.
- Izkata 5mo agoAt least in English, this appears to be slang that only recently leaked out of its original context. I've never heard the term before and whatever they used to look it up probably had no results. The usual English term is "mid-level".
- lproven 5mo agoNo, they weren't. They told me an awkward neologism for someone who isn't senior and isn't junior, and that means that neither they nor the original message tell me mid-level what. So, no, they were not, or I would not have asked.
- philipp-gayret 5mo agoIn the Netherlands, it's the name for anyone between junior and senior, in software. From my perspective it's more something used by recruiters and employers to tell people they don't get a senior engineer's compensation.
- imtringued 5mo agoThere are three levels of seniority. You can be a junior, a medior or a senior.
- ironmagma 5mo agoSociety doesn't owe anybody anything. So who's to say when you find something else to do, it will pay enough to live?
- simgt 5mo agoThey've earned 500k/y for a couple years, they don't need another job that pays enough, that's why they can be so indifferent about the outcome.
- hparadiz 5mo agoI'm no where near that TC and think this way too. This field of work is generally new in history. The whole woe is me what will we ever do attitude is so weak and frankly annoying.
- ironmagma 5mo agoMost of modern society is new in history; what is that supposed to say? If you are making the point that it's unproven and fragile, that would be a good point and actually one that supports "woe is me" because all of it could disappear overnight considering the fragility.
- hparadiz 5mo agoIn my lifetime I have watched SPARC SUN Servers being thrown in the trash, spaghetti coded javascript and php run fortune 500s, the linux kernel adding containers, and everyone now being required to know how to code for CI so they can rerun tests, linters, and rebuild their app on every commit and publish it to an S3 bucket with specific IAM permissions tied to some SSO IAM provider. At no point in any of that was anyone coddled or told that they will get to keep their job forever. Learn new skills. That's the game. It's not even unique to tech. Doctors have to do this too. There's so much work in the industry right now around LLM implementation that folks not looking into that are sleeping on good jobs.
- maweki 5mo ago> Society doesn't owe me over $500k/year No it doesn't. But as a human being, you and everybody still deserves a decent living. And our current system clearly does not provide that for a lot of people.
- munksbeer 5mo agoWorld GDP and standard of living has never been higher.
- stevenlangbroek 5mo agoSo? We produce enough food for 10 billion people every year, there's only 8 billion of us and a billion are hungry. Those seem like legible KPIs for shareholders (i.e. humanity) to pursue, no? And while World GDP is up, it's come at the expensive of the systems we depend on. I want my son to live on a livable planet, and not under the constant threat of destitution. And I want that for all children, not just mine.
- munksbeer 5mo agoEveryone wants that. But people on this thread are arguing that technology is reducing our standard of living, which is just factually untrue.
- stevenlangbroek 5mo agoDepends on who & what you ask. Aggregates hide important nuance. For who? At what cost to who? Do the people who bare the cost have a say? Would they agree that it's worth it? What's their life worth?
- esseph 5mo agoThere is more to life than economics. High trust societies, a feeling of place and well-being in a culture, connectedness, etc. https://data.worldhappiness.report/map https://data.worldhappiness.report/map Note: Look at the US continuing to move down the report year after year.
- eggsandbeer 5mo agoFuck the American Dream
- alaaalawi 5mo agois it like society does not owe any body money for puting sand gravel cement and water. we are talking about products not their assembly
- eloisant 5mo agoIt also doesn't owe your CEO billions for hovering over a company where other people (like you) do the actual value creation.
- roenxi 5mo agoThat's fairly well understood. If people get wind that the CEO isn't necessary they'd be out on their ear in short order. I don't think I've ever met anyone who'd shed a tear for the CEO losing their job. Except CEOs.
- grim_io 5mo agoCEO's don't lose jobs, they just move into other board/CEO positions. Never a shortage of those, it seems. But only for insiders, of course.
- coolThingsFirst 5mo agoNo, but it owes you around 100K with a great work-life balance and job security because you spent years and years studying and honing your skills for it.
- CRConrad 5mo agoIf you've been getting over $500k/year for years, you are "rich people". So no wonder you're not going to blame yourself for anything.