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Why can't an AI scan the QR code? Just fire up an emulator if necessary
by stupidgeek314 5mo ago
Why can't an AI scan the QR code? Just fire up an emulator if necessary
- tardedmeme 5mo agoThe app that scans the code talks to the TPM in your phone to prove that your phone is running an unmodified Google OS.
- hellojesus 5mo agoI know that's the final destination, but I didn't see that listed in the requirements page linked above. Any proof of this affecting the current implementation?
- themafia 5mo agoWhich would be meaningful if phones weren't remotely controllable. So the net effect is every AI agent will also have and connect to a physical phone.
- tardedmeme 5mo agoThe attestation will include a unique ID of the phone, so that if you get banned you have to keep buying new phones and keep paying money to Google. Google won't stop this because it makes them money. And the official Google OS just won't feature remote-control software.
- lucb1e 5mo agoThere's also remote control hardware (a printer-like device can operate a touchscreen). But the first point stands, yes. Be it a phone or another hardware attestation device, they and Apple will be giving "I am human, let me participate in society" checkmarks out, directly or indirectly for money
- Asooka 5mo agoOr keep stealing IMEI IDs. Now regular people will start getting banned from the internet because of bot activity. You would open your phone one day and see "You have been disconnected from society" and there will be nothing you can do.
- tardedmeme 5mo agoIt will be cryptographically secure, but you can still pass the captcha code onto a different user so their phone gets banned instead.
- Hizonner 5mo ago... which is why you'll get locked out if you happen to visit an unusual number of sites in a day.
- duskdozer 5mo agoOne can expect it will be tied to a government ID, at which point they ban you from the internet if you disobey them.
- postalrat 5mo agoSo openclaw or whatever future software will run or control unmodified google os devices.
- nerdsniper 5mo agoBluetooth is generally used to prove that the two devices are co-located, which makes it more complex to do your proposed kind of deployment at-scale. Bespoke solutions could perhaps work around for some smaller number of devices, this QR code layer by itself isn't intended to stop 100% of workarounds.
- halapro 5mo agoNo browser supports Bluetooth.
- LoganDark 5mo agoChrome does...
- drusepth 5mo agoInterestingly, only on desktop/Android and not iOS it seems.
- LoganDark 5mo agoChrome on iOS uses WebKit, so that makes sense. (*I think in the EU, iOS Chrome can use Blink, but I am not sure if it actually does.)
- halapro 5mo agoThat's news to me https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Web_Bluetooth_API https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Web_Bluetoo... Websites cannot use Bluetooth anywhere. The QR codes shown in the blog post are not passkey QR codes, which is likely what's confusing you.
- nerdsniper 5mo agoThese passkey QR codes don't need to use Web Bluetooth API, because they utilize the WebAuthn API. The website itself isn't given access to the bluetooth, the task is handed off to the browser, which as a native application, can access bluetooth and abstracts the bluetooth away.