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Proton Meet
- verdverm 5mo agoWorks over MLS and performs well based on personal usage
- mikece 5mo agoThe launch of Proton Meet officially eliminates the lazy excuse that securing real-time WebRTC media at scale is "too hard" for modern enterprise platforms. Hopefully this forces the hands of Slack, Teams, and Google to stop treating E2EE as a premium afterthought and start offering it as a standard option for the modern web.
- ainiriand 5mo agoOne can only dream!
- stackskipton 5mo agoSlack, Teams and Google are meaningfully making this choice and that's because customers rarely care and yes, many of customers do prefer the server side transcriptions, recording and AI note taking.
- charcircuit 5mo agoYou can add the server to the call even if it is E2EE. You don't need to physically show it as a separate user and the client can hide that information and make it seamless.
- stackskipton 5mo agoSure, you COULD or you could just encrypt between client and server and be done with it. Business users are their focus and outside select industries, vast majority of businesses don't care if government is spying or not. Heck, most businesses would turn over information to government without any fight. It's just not something they worry about.
- lxgr 5mo agoWho still believes that anyway given that WhatsApp, Facetime, and even Google Meet (formerly Duo) (formerly Hangouts) (the one that was not Google Meet 1.0) (not for Woरkspaces) have been supporting E2E multi-party video calls for a long time now?
- mghackerlady 5mo agounrelated but was using र a stylistic choice of some kind or a mistake? I thought my screen had a speck of dust or something on it (also what language do you speak if it was a mistake, linguistics are fun)
- lxgr 5mo agoJust a typographic approximation of my mental state when thinking about Google's instant messaging product naming and strategy, or rather the lack of both :)
- e12e 5mo agoInteresting to hear both user experience and thoughts on: https://proton.me/blog/meet-security-model https://proton.me/blog/meet-security-model
- adastra22 5mo agoHow is this different from Keet?
- kkfx 5mo agoHonestly... No thanks. It's 2026, those who do not own a domain name should buy one an run their own Matrix/XMPP server.
- joecot 5mo agoOr you can just run Jitsi Meet. E2EE is built in but you also have control of the server and the traffic to and from is encrypted
- john_strinlai 5mo agomost of the world has no need and no desire to do any of that. and i dont blame them, either. this is super-nerd level of advice. proton meet is already targeting a really niche set of customers, and you're taking it to another level.
- teekert 5mo agoSomeone's bubble needs popping.
- interf4ce 5mo agoI don't think that's the target audience here. Proton makes safer, more private (than, say, Gmail) email a possibility for people who don't have much technical knowledge but who know enough to want to keep their emails out of Google's hands. If you have both the knowledge and time to run a server, by all means, that can make sense (and can be fun!). It's just not as widely applicable.
- kkfx 5mo agoYou send emails to @gmail addresses most of the time, so... How you can avoid giving Alphabet (or some other giant) your messages? The point of ownership is having your mails in your hand, on your iron, anything who can talk IMAPs or even POP is ok for that. For voice/chat etc Matrix or XMPP might be yours, so nobody could decide to ban you or shut the service down. You still depend on a ISP ok, but much less dependencies anyway. That's the point IMVHO. While thinking that company X is better in privacy terms than company Y is honestly meaningless, you can trust them or not, you don't know what happen on their servers or someone else ones where they actually live on (like using Amazon o Microsoft cloud as a backend).
- StrangeSound 5mo agoI wish Proton would focus on all of the missing features within their existing product suite before creating even more offerings to maintain
- weezing 5mo agoStill waiting for Drive for Linux.
- mrkn1 5mo ago+1
- invalidSyntax 5mo agoAnd another +1
- neobrain 5mo agoThey are hiring specifically for that: https://old.reddit.com/r/ProtonDrive/comments/1spx14d/proton_is_hiring_a_linux_desktop_employee_for/ https://old.reddit.com/r/ProtonDrive/comments/1spx14d/proton...
- latentsea 5mo agoSo much this.
- teekert 5mo agoSometimes yes. But with Meet? No. I was really waiting for this! I actually appreciate how they balance features and new products. They are becoming more credible MS365/Google Workspace alternatives with every step.
- setsewerd 5mo agoI might be an outlier here in caring about this product but I really want Proton Docs to get optimized better, it takes way too long to load. Google docs may not be private but it takes <1 second to load when I click the browser bookmark, vs 11 seconds to load a Proton document. 11-second load time for a page is a lot of friction in 2026, no matter how secure your product is.
- evanjrowley 5mo agoThis must integrate with Proton's appointment scheduling feature, no? That's a feature offered as part of their Workplace Standard and Workplace Premium plans. Does anyone have experience with that feature? How does it compare to the Microsoft Office 365 bookings feature? Honestly couldn't do my job without something like this manage my stacked schedule.
- jviotti 5mo agoWe at Sourcemeta (https://www.sourcemeta.com https://www.sourcemeta.com) are in the Proton business plan. The "Talk to an expert" and "Schedule Consultation" buttons in the main page point to my (the founder) calendar to book a slot. No complains from it so far. People get it, book with success, and I run those calls on Proton Meet, which also proved to work pretty well.
- daimoc4242 5mo ago[dead]
- LoganDark 5mo agoWeird that the very first image in the article has a typo ("cancelation" vs cancellation).
- buran77 5mo agoAmerican English allows the single l form, like traveling or modeling.
- mghackerlady 5mo agowell to be fair american english is just a bunch of typos someone made standardised on because he didn't like the british
- nozzlegear 5mo agoStandardized* /s Edit: I thought you were joking and that the answer was more like printing presses and a lack of an official "standard English" in the 1700s/1800s, but it turns out the answer really was closer to what you said. Noah Webster deliberately decided to make American English diverge from British English when he wrote his dictionary.
- mghackerlady 5mo agoYeah, I researched for a throwaway comment, what of it? (I was gonna comment this but decided to read the wikipedia article to ensure I was accurate)
- LoganDark 5mo agoI stand corrected; American English uses double-l in places like "compelling" but not always in places like "canceling".
- ranger_danger 5mo ago> in today’s unstable geopolitical environment, laws like the US CLOUD Act can compel US-owned video conferencing platforms to hand over any data they store, even if the servers reside outside of the United States So does that mean two people using this in the US will both have high latency to another country?
- limaoscarjuliet 5mo agoPacket round trip between US and EU is approx. 100ms. Given acceptable latency for voice communication is below 300ms, we should not worry about that too much.
- ranger_danger 5mo ago> we should not worry about that too much I do worry about it and I think lots of people will as well for other reasons. One of them is screen sharing.
- HDBaseT 5mo ago[dead]
- ZoneZealot 5mo agoProton Meet relies entirely on LiveKit Cloud (USA based) to run https://proton.me/meet/privacy-policy https://proton.me/meet/privacy-policy LiveKit Cloud uses virtual compute and networking across multiple (USA based) cloud providers. DigitalOcean, Google and Oracle at minimum. They each have servers all of the world of course, but the controlling entity(s) parent companies are all based in the USA. Latency shouldn’t be a problem, it's handled by a global CDN. Proton including that part about geopolitical instability implies that Meet is does not fall under the USA's CLOUD Act - that would be wrong. The metadata of any Meet call could be handed to USA authorities, for example the participants date & time, source IP and useragent of each member. The call itself should be E2E encrypted.
- mitchsayre 5mo agoThe main thing stopping me from using Proton Meet is I don't like that the booking pages that come with Proton Calendar only show in 24-hour time.
- gnabgib 5mo agoYou're misunderstanding how Pollen works https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48039412 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48039412
- vivzkestrel 5mo ago- stupid question: someone is asking me to prove that google, microsoft and zoom are tracking - how do I prove that they are actually not privacy friendly?
- svnt 5mo agoThere is a history of international legal action as a result of them violating privacy laws, nevermind being privacy friendly: France’s data protection regulator (CNIL) fined Google €325 million in 2025 for displaying ads between Gmail messages without consent and for placing cookies during account creation without consent. This is on top of prior fines of €100 million in 2020 and €150 million in 2021 for cookie violations, so this is a documented pattern. The Dutch government commissioned Data Protection Impact Assessments (DPIAs) on Office/Microsoft 365. The 2018 report found Microsoft collected 23,000–25,000 different telemetry events from Office and called it “large scale and covert collection of personal data” The FTC went after Zoom in 2020. The complaint alleged that since at least 2016, Zoom misled users by claiming “end-to-end, 256-bit encryption” when it actually provided a lower level of security, and Zoom saved the cryptographic keys that would allow it to access the content of customers’ meetings. You could also just go read their own policy documents, or ask AI to explain what is possible under those to you if they are too dense.
- pzduniak 5mo ago>The FTC went after Zoom in 2020. The complaint alleged that since at least 2016, Zoom misled users by claiming “end-to-end, 256-bit encryption” when it actually provided a lower level of security, and Zoom saved the cryptographic keys that would allow it to access the content of customers’ meetings. May 7th 2020: https://www.zoom.com/en/blog/zoom-acquires-keybase-and-announces-goal-of-developing-the-most-broadly-used-enterprise-end-to-end-encryption-offering/ https://www.zoom.com/en/blog/zoom-acquires-keybase-and-annou... May 22nd 2020: https://github.com/zoom/zoom-e2e-whitepaper https://github.com/zoom/zoom-e2e-whitepaper E2EE seems to be available to free accounts https://support.zoom.com/hc/en/article?id=zm_kb&sysparm_article=KB0075502 https://support.zoom.com/hc/en/article?id=zm_kb&sysparm_arti... (opinions are my own etc.)
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- EGreg 5mo agoI like Proton a lot. But isn’t WebRTC already trivially end to end encrypted? We built an entire encrypted and decentralized peer to peer videoconferencing and livestreaming system years ago, and made it open source so anyone can host it: https://community.qbix.com/t/teleconferencing-and-live-broadcasts/181 https://community.qbix.com/t/teleconferencing-and-live-broad...
- ekjhgkejhgk 5mo agoI would be curious to understand whether they implemented this from scratch or whether they got a whitelabel solution from someone else (and if so, who). I was shocked recently when I looked into this to find out the number of solutions out there.
- ZoneZealot 5mo agoProton Meet relies entirely on LiveKit Cloud to run https://proton.me/meet/privacy-policy https://proton.me/meet/privacy-policy which uses virtual compute and networking with DigitalOcean, Google and Oracle.
- kimi 5mo agoNot sure i understand the point.... any p2p webrtc call in encrypted e2e.
- HackerThemAll 5mo agoProton lost me after they started posting rage-bait ads on Facebook, targetting other tools and e-mail services, spreading total b.s. and lies.
- drcongo 5mo agoFacebook user surprised by rage-bait ads is not something I expected to see today.
- HackerThemAll 5mo agoI ignore sponsored posts and ads entirely, but Proton got my attention, as I used to trust it. Not anymore, sorry Proton.
- wunderlotus 5mo agoSigh. I guess I’m less amen less the target audience for proton as they (understandably) focus on enterprise/business customers. But bloody hell, I wish they would fix their core products before rolling out all these new ones. Yes, people want to DeGoogle. Fair. But also, people (me!) just want proton mail to easily let me set up basic rules and bulk operations.