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- imcritic 5mo ago[flagged]
- tomhow 5mo agoWe've banned this account.
- imcritic 5mo ago[dead]
- elashri 5mo agoHi Tom, since you are here. It seems that my comment, the GOP is flagged and I think this is a case of flag abuse. Can you help with that?
- tomhow 5mo agoThat was an unsubstantive comment, that started a generic tangent, and veers onto the wrong side of these parts of the guidelines: Don't be snarky. Converse curiously Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. I understand you probably didn't know that or may not accept the assessment, and that's fine, but please know that we consider it important that comments should be about the article's primary topic and that they activate curious conversation. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- elashri 5mo agoThanks for explaining that, you are probably right.
- tomhow 5mo agoThanks for understanding. I know it can feel like a bummer when your comment was at the top of the thread, getting lots of upvotes and replies, only to see it suddenly buried lower down the thread. The main issue for us is just about relevance. The topic of the post is the 4GB model installed with Chrome. That's what the top comment and discussion needs to be about. Of course, your comment, being about a competing browser, isn't completely irrelevant, it's just not the most relevant issue or the most important one to discuss in seeking to understand the primary topic. It's not an egregious breach of the guidelines – hence I said "veers onto the wrong side". I think you get it.
- elashri 5mo agoNi problem. I get you point but just to clarify I didn't feel that. I did not actually realize this was the top comment. My point was that as this is another thing that chrome put down our throat without ability to stop it which actually what the original link refers to, then the solution as a reminder is to use Firefox. I was just complaining because I suspected that many people might be abusing because they just don't like Firefox (some replies including the account you just banned indicated that to me) but I am probably wrong. I am not arguing, just explaining my thoughts. And thanks for taking the time to explain and clarify.
- tomhow 5mo agoAll good, thanks for the thoughts.
- lmf4lol 5mo agoI am using Firefox for years now. It's such a splendid experience. I can recommend the following extensions: - Youtube Enhancer - DuckDuckGo Privacy Essentials - Cookie Auto Decline (a MUST for Europeans) - Slop Evader - No Gender (a MUST for Germans) Its a totally different browsing experience than what most people have. I recently watched my kiddo looking something up with Edge on her laptop. I had to interfere and install Firefox. It was ridicolous!!! The amount of spam on the screen. How people can cope with this is beyond me. Especially if the solution doesn't cost anything. Just Firefox + some free extensions. edit: because people asked about the No Gender extension: Germany didn't have “gendered” language, until it was introduced some years ago. Imagine the sentence: The teachers explain to their pupiles that the managers work only for the shareholders. in regular German, it would translate to: Die Lehrer erklärten den Schülern, dass die Manager ausschliesslich für die Anteilhaber arbeiten. In gendered German, it became: Die Lehrer:innen erklärten den Schüler:innen, dass die Manager:innen ausschliesslich für die Anteilhaber:innen arbeiten. For me, it ruins the reading experience.
- tomtomtom777 5mo agoCan you explain what the "No Gender" extension is about and why it is a must?
- MaKey 5mo agoIt removes gender speech (Leser*innen becomes Leser), which can be awkward and hurt the reading flow.
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- mmyrte 5mo agoIt seems like you would lose meaning by automatically replacing words, no? Why would you want to censor your internet experience, just because you find someone else's use of language awkward?
- dwedge 5mo agoOh is this the browser by that company that are funded half a billion dollars a year by Google and want to become an advertising company[1] and wants their browser to become a modern AI browser[2]? [1] https://www.jwz.org/blog/2024/10/mozillas-ceo-doubles-down-on-them-being-an-advertising-company-now/ https://www.jwz.org/blog/2024/10/mozillas-ceo-doubles-down-o... [2] https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/leadership/mozillas-next-chapter-anthony-enzor-demeo-new-ceo/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/leadership/mozillas-next...
- petesergeant 5mo agoWe Should Improve Society Somewhat
- 2ndorderthought 5mo agoWhy is this downvoted lol. It's so reasonable
- ranger_danger 5mo agoPlease feel free to suggest a better alternative.
- airstrike 5mo agoFWIW I've recently moved from Firefox to Helium after 10+ years. Yes, I hate that it's also Chromium, but no, there aren't real alternatives.
- ranger_danger 5mo agoThere are Firefox forks that don't have any AI/advertising/etc. stuff in it. There's also WebKit-based FOSS browsers not based on Chromium nor Gecko. Upstream it's maintained by Apple but the open source webkit browsers should not have any questionable features by default.
- nickvec 5mo ago
- echelon_musk 5mo agoThe browser with a sidebar AI chatbot? What a simple solution.
- freehorse 5mo agoYou don't have to have the sidebar chatbot thing. When mozilla added these AI features, after the update the browser prompted me to whether I want it or not, with the "yes" and "no" being equally easy to select. It did not add them without consent. You can disable all AI features altogether, or you can completely remove chatbot sidebar specifically (with 2 clicks) and have the rest of the features if you want them. Gosh most of the time when I read people complain about firefox, it gives me the impression they have not even used firefox.
- willis936 5mo agoThat's neat. Firefox has never prompted me on any of my instances and the sidebar is still present. Wish they would ask everyone for consent.
- utrack 5mo agoIf you accidentally skipped it, go to Preferences -> AI Controls -> toggle on Block AI Enhancements, it disables everything.
- kaiwn 5mo agoHe’s not saying he accidentally skipped the prompt, he’s saying he didn’t get any.
- freehorse 5mo agoFirefox does not even have a default provider. It is not like the chatbot panel itself can even exist without a user actively choosing a provider and potentially having to log in. The default is to have a selection menu, which then basically loads the interface of the llm provider themselves. So when they introduced it I remember been prompted to select a provider or close it. Similarly with their separate summarisation etc features I was prompted whether I wanted a local model, online model (I think), or not at all. It did not download 4gb of data without consent. We can keep complaining about details forever but it is like missing the forest completely.
- phatfish 5mo ago[flagged]
- xzjis 5mo agoThat's really a bullshit argument. First off, there are plenty of technical solutions that allow minors (15-17 years old) to bypass the restrictions: using sites that don't follow the law, using Tor, etc. But furthermore, these measures to restrict access to porn are counterproductive for sex workers, because it makes their situation more precarious, and they only exist to weaponize the "think of the children" narrative in order to push draconian laws and social control. Soon it will be social media's turn, and then the entire internet asking for an ID. This isn't just an empty "slippery slope" argument, it's exactly what regulators are currently doing in all Western countries.
- phatfish 5mo agoWell, it's coming and childless neckbeards or sex workers can't stop it. Restrictions on social media and porn for children is one of the few things that crosses the political divide. You can bypass them to make your jerk-off extra satisfying if you like, i don't care. As long as the bar is high enough that kids in general are protected and a precedent is set in society.
- lionkor 5mo agoWon't someone think of the kids! Not the parents, no, they should be increasing shareholder value. /s
- whynotmaybe 5mo agoDon't need a VPN for that, a fake moustache is enough. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48018080 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48018080
- Y-bar 5mo agoTake responsibility for your kids. Talk to them (or ask someone you trust to do it) about what is acceptable in your household and elsewhere.
- bluehex 5mo agoI use Firefox as my main browser but occasionally run into Chrome requirements for certain web apps so end up begrudgingly installing it. I'm in the habit of going straight to the chrome flags page and turning off all this junk exactly because disk usage of chrome is ridiculous otherwise.
- 2ndorderthought 5mo agoWhat's another 4gb of disk space when computer hardware prices are soaring into unobtanium? I hate how much companies don't care about efficiency or their customers. It's like windows 11 requiring like 2 more GB of RAM just to see your desktop, what an upgrade, yuck.
- 0xEF 5mo agoI did the same thing, but realized I was contributing to the problem. If a web app requires Chrome for full functionality, then us switching browsers is giving them permission to continue and expand their invasive practices. These days, I just navigate away from anything that demands I use Chrome "for best results." One of the sites for a local utility company does this, so instead I just call monthly and pay or manage my service by phone. I'm old enough to remember when that was the preferred way after mailing personal cheques went the way of the dodo, so it does not feel that inconvenient to me, but I can see where it might for other people. Still, nobody said the fight to regaining our agency online would be easy. Or convenient.
- Hamuko 5mo agoLike what? I think the only time I've ever had to use Chrome instead of Firefox was because of some USB device thing that worked inside Chrome. Otherwise everything just works in Firefox.
- Y-bar 5mo agoThe sites my colleagues and I produce. They consider Chrome === Standard and everything else a deviation for which they may begrudgingly fix obvious bugs in once pressed. It's seldom that entire sites will break in other browsers, but instead they simply do not work in some ways like modals sometimes breaking, or XHR requests failing, or performance being bad. It's frustrating.
- shaunpud 5mo agoSwitched over to Waterfox recently, nice alternative with some added extras for privacy etc.
- 2ndorderthought 5mo agoIsn't waterfox owned by an ad company? Might as well be the Google of the fire fox browsers.
- shaunpud 5mo agoNo https://www.waterfox.com/blog/15-years-of-forking/ https://www.waterfox.com/blog/15-years-of-forking/
- 2ndorderthought 5mo agoYea. Anyone still using chrome at this point must really love getting emails about class action lawsuits from Google. My god.
- qurren 5mo ago... and it takes up 50% CPU on 16 cores just to run a video call. Laptop battery drains in 30 minutes. Chrome doesn't do that. I literally can't use Firefox anywhere I don't have a power socket. My laptop also becomes a toaster.
- grebc 5mo agoLibreWolf.