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Lots of trade secrets there. I wonder how many of them the BigAI companies have already collected.
by amelius 6mo ago
Lots of trade secrets there. I wonder how many of them the BigAI companies have already collected.
- jabl 6mo agoCan you name a specific example of a trade secret revealed in the article?
- class3shock 6mo agoI thought they meant it as "lots of trade secrets in the jet engine field" not "lots of trade secrets in the article".
- class3shock 6mo agoConsidering most of those trade secrets are sitting in peoples heads or in documentation behind walls AI companies have yet to get over, not many.
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- etiam 6mo agoI think the issue would be mainly that people fail to realize the nature of what they're corresponding with, and take things from inside their heads and behind the walls, and put them into the chat? I hope you're right though.
- class3shock 6mo agoNo one is "corresponding" trade secrets outside of their company. I recommend reading up on ITAR and the resulting culture it has created around aerospace info.
- foobar10000 6mo agoNote that google cloud has an itar-compatible gemini pro and google drive / docs - so, people do talk to it - and google is of course contractually obligated to not export it, nor to learn from it. This is very different that AWS fed-gov bedrock thingie - where AWS promises that the models are running on hardware dedicated to you, with no external logging, etc.
- JumpCrisscross 6mo ago> google cloud has an itar-compatible gemini pro and google drive / docs - so, people do talk to it A lot of aerospace engineering is touch and feel. Someone has a "sense" for when to do the next step, and how to finagle the part so it comes out a particular way. They can train someone, if they apply themselves intently. But they probably couldn't explain it in words if they tried.
- class3shock 6mo agoMaybe a better way to say it would be, no one is talking to AI that isn't on company serves, managed by that company personnel. My overall point being, no one is submitting design files to ChatGPT for analysis or emailing their friends in China test reports to get a second opinion on the experimental results.
- leonidasrup 6mo agoDon't forget these companies are both civilian and millitary contractors. These kind of information will stored in separate air-gapped computer systems. Employes are required to have background check. https://suppliers.rolls-royce.com/GSPWeb/ShowProperty?nodePath=/BEA%20Repository/Global%20Supplier%20Portal/Articles/Employ_Assign_Screen_Pol https://suppliers.rolls-royce.com/GSPWeb/ShowProperty?nodePa...
- trogdor 6mo agoIf a company has a specific knowledge advantage regarding the design or manufacture of turbine blades, wouldn’t they patent it?
- applied_heat 6mo agoPatents expire Patents are difficult to enforce internationally Where would coke be if the recipe was patented instead of trade secret ?
- chii 6mo agoWhile your point is completely true, the specific example of coke is ironic because Coke's dominance is more related to marketing than their formula!