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to be honest, for some reason I expected most of apple to eschew claude/ai coding. I'm not sure why. It just doesn't feel very Apple-like

by fusslo 5mo ago

alex43578 5mo ago
Because unlike Apple Intelligence, Claude is useful?
basisword 5mo ago
They've had it built in to Xcode for a while now, and I imagine internally a lot longer.
Cthulhu_ 5mo ago
I'm also not sure why you'd think that, Apple's been at the forefront of "AI" for years now, running models locally and optimizing their CPUs for local workloads to e.g. identify people, places and pets (much appreciated lmao), create slideshows, and subtly improve photo's made on the device.
- dyauspitr 5mo ago
  The photo organization is nice but that being said, if you try to use the on device Apple Foundation models you quickly find it is totally useless.
tracerbulletx 5mo ago
Some people are living in a different universe. Every single tech company I know is pivoting their entire company to AI based software development. Its in the performance evals, the wallet is fully open to use tokens to experiment, every practice and every process is open for re-evaluation. Its all gas no breaks everywhere. The conversation on the internet does not seem to realize this? Or is in denial.
- ryandrake 5mo ago
  I think OP's comment comes from the "Think Different" mysticism that used to be around Apple. You'd think that if there was one company on the planet not embracing slop, it would be Apple, and the realization that it's not the case can be a bummer.
  - doug_durham 5mo ago
    "Slop" means low effort/low accountability. It is independent of the tools used in development.
  - dwaite 5mo ago
    "slop" and "vibe coding" are derogatory terms about the level of effort - e.g. little to no human review of quality or accuracy, or accountability/concern related to the output.
- corpoposter 5mo ago
  I can’t tell if “all gas no breaks” was intentional or not, but “no breaks” does seem to be a part of the culture shift within big tech around AI.
- beepbooptheory 5mo ago
  Yeah, and we seem to talk everyday about how they are all getting shittier. I'm sure its just coincidence though.
- sathomasga 5mo ago
  Well, that "different universe" includes the tech company that employs me. I like my universe better.
dyauspitr 5mo ago
Why? It’s 1000x faster than most developers and can handle pretty hard problems.
- fantasizr 5mo ago
  we'll see if the tradeoff for speed is quality soon enough.
- vor_ 5mo ago
  That's certainly a claim.
sharts 5mo ago
Feels like the most apple-like thing ever. Everyone seems to have differing perceptions of apple.
bb123 5mo ago
"What a computer is to me is it's the most remarkable tool that we've ever come up with, and it's the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds." — Steve Jobs.

to be honest, for some reason I expected most of apple to eschew claude/ai coding. I'm not sure why. It just doesn't feel very Apple-like

by fusslo 5mo ago

to be honest, for some reason I expected most of apple to eschew claude/ai coding. I'm not sure why. It just doesn't feel very Apple-like

alex43578 5mo ago

Because unlike Apple Intelligence, Claude is useful?

basisword 5mo ago

They've had it built in to Xcode for a while now, and I imagine internally a lot longer.

Cthulhu_ 5mo ago

I'm also not sure why you'd think that, Apple's been at the forefront of "AI" for years now, running models locally and optimizing their CPUs for local workloads to e.g. identify people, places and pets (much appreciated lmao), create slideshows, and subtly improve photo's made on the device.

dyauspitr 5mo ago
The photo organization is nice but that being said, if you try to use the on device Apple Foundation models you quickly find it is totally useless.

tracerbulletx 5mo ago

Some people are living in a different universe. Every single tech company I know is pivoting their entire company to AI based software development. Its in the performance evals, the wallet is fully open to use tokens to experiment, every practice and every process is open for re-evaluation. Its all gas no breaks everywhere. The conversation on the internet does not seem to realize this? Or is in denial.

ryandrake 5mo ago
I think OP's comment comes from the "Think Different" mysticism that used to be around Apple. You'd think that if there was one company on the planet not embracing slop, it would be Apple, and the realization that it's not the case can be a bummer.
- doug_durham 5mo ago
  "Slop" means low effort/low accountability. It is independent of the tools used in development.
- dwaite 5mo ago
  "slop" and "vibe coding" are derogatory terms about the level of effort - e.g. little to no human review of quality or accuracy, or accountability/concern related to the output.
corpoposter 5mo ago
I can’t tell if “all gas no breaks” was intentional or not, but “no breaks” does seem to be a part of the culture shift within big tech around AI.
beepbooptheory 5mo ago
Yeah, and we seem to talk everyday about how they are all getting shittier. I'm sure its just coincidence though.
sathomasga 5mo ago
Well, that "different universe" includes the tech company that employs me. I like my universe better.

dyauspitr 5mo ago

Why? It’s 1000x faster than most developers and can handle pretty hard problems.

fantasizr 5mo ago
we'll see if the tradeoff for speed is quality soon enough.
vor_ 5mo ago
That's certainly a claim.

sharts 5mo ago

Feels like the most apple-like thing ever. Everyone seems to have differing perceptions of apple.

bb123 5mo ago

"What a computer is to me is it's the most remarkable tool that we've ever come up with, and it's the equivalent of a bicycle for our minds." — Steve Jobs.