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"OpenWarp is a community fork of Warp's open-source code. It is not affiliated with Warp Inc. and follows the upstream AGPL / MIT dual license." It is rude, an
by SwellJoe 6mo ago
"OpenWarp is a community fork of Warp's open-source code. It is not affiliated with Warp Inc. and follows the upstream AGPL / MIT dual license."
It is rude, and possibly a trademark violation, to fork a project and use the same name. And, how can there be a "community fork" when there is no community? It's just been Open Sourced 24 hours ago.
- iamveen 6mo agoDomain Squatting 2.0
- nothinkjustai 6mo ago[flagged]
- simplify 6mo agoDefinitely rude, too close to the same name. Warp just recently open sourced their client, a [not community] personal fork should be more considerate.
- Hasnep 6mo agoYou probably can't name a project OpenWarp for the same reason you can't name a search engine OpenGoogle, even though it's a different name to the original. In this case, it's particularly confusing because the original warp project _is_ now open source.
- kreelman 6mo agoI used Warp a bit on Windows. It looked promising, but didn't work quite as well as I would have liked. It's great that it's been open sourced. Does anyone keep a DB somewhere of open source project names? I think it would be better to give the code fork a different name.... And maybe move it off Github!!
- BeetleB 6mo agoYou can't name something OpenGoogle, because the Google name is trademarked. Is Warp trademarked?
- deleted 6mo ago[deleted]
- satvikpendem 6mo agoYes it is, as another person has replied.
- illiac786 6mo agoIt is, and the discussion is about etiquette, not law.
- wahnfrieden 6mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unregistered_trademark https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unregistered_trademark Even if it is not a registered trademark, it can be enforceable as a trademark due to common law
- wolfi1 6mo agoI do have to admit, when I saw Warp I thought of OS/2, a long forgotten Win32-compatible OS by IBM, btw, does anyone know if IBM trademarked Warp?
- adamhartenz 6mo agoIt is not the "open" version of Warp. Warp is already open. So the name is rude.
- victorbjorklund 6mo agoTry do create a game called ”Open Pokémon Go” and see if it works or not.
- Hasnep 6mo agoI agree on the name, but to me the word community here is used to mean it's not run by a company.
- SwellJoe 6mo agoHistorically, it means a community of developers have decided to break with the old project for some reason. Jenkins is a community fork. Mariadb is a community fork. Joomla is a community fork. Illumos was a community fork. Rocky Linux is a community fork. Valkey is a community fork. This is a personal project by someone with no connection to the project or its code. It is misleading to claim to represent the Warp "community". Maybe there will be a community around Warp someday, and maybe there will be a reason for community members to fork it, but for now, it is a newly open sourced project, and this is a person trying to build their own reputation on someone else's work. Forks are a good and natural part of the Open Source and Free Software world. But, a good fork doesn't look anything like this. It involves stakeholders, it respects the work others have put into the project in the past, and it doesn't confuse users with a misleadingly similar name. At the very least, you change the name when you fork something, if you have any decency or respect for Open Source and its historical mores. I wouldn't have said a word about it, if they'd changed the name, I would have ignored it (as I assume most people would have, if it didn't share a name with something people are already talking about). But, since they're coming out of the gate being an entitled jerk about software that folks have chosen to Open Source, I'm inclined to point out that they're not behaving ethically on multiple fronts.
- jauntywundrkind 6mo agoIt's ok to start new things with aspirations. Spare us such melodrama, such pedantry.
- SwellJoe 6mo agoYep, start a new thing with a new name. Go for it.
- skrtskrt 6mo ago
- jrm4 6mo ago[flagged]
- BeetleB 6mo agoDefinitely disagree about rudeness. Only a trademark violation if a trademark has been registered. IANAL.
- illiac786 6mo agoMixing etiquette and copyright. It is not only rude but also misleading and frankly, stupid.
- selcuka 6mo agohttps://uspto.report/TM/90342558 https://uspto.report/TM/90342558 > WARP® trademark registration is intended to cover the categories of [...] Downloadable computer terminal emulator program [...]
- ai_slop_hater 6mo agoHow were they able to register it? So many other things are named Warp, for example Cloudflare Warp.
- selcuka 6mo agoCloudflare Warp is also trademarked: https://uspto.report/TM/88455403 https://uspto.report/TM/88455403 They are the same class (Class 009, software and electronic goods) but apparently the trademark examiner determined that a terminal app and VPN/security software are distinct enough not to cause a confusion.
- SwellJoe 6mo agoOne can claim a trademark without registering it (the difference between ™ and ®). But, if one wanted to sue, you'd probably register it first. But, a claimed trademark that is suitably unique for your product is defensible if you can prove consistent usage pre-dating the new user of that mark. I'd be pissed if someone took one of my open source projects, forked it, and also stole the name (and put "Open" in front, despite the fact that the thing they forked is Open Source), misleading users and diluting the brand with software I have no control over. I don't even know what Warp is, but I'm mad as hell about it. As an Open Source developer of 30 years, I expect people to operate with something like honor and decency and respect for other people. Taking someone's open project and launching a competing fork with the same name is hugely disrespectful and dishonorable behavior.
- blitzar 6mo agoI would like to introduce my new venture, OpenOpenAi.
- bestouff 6mo agoWarp is already an Alacritty fork with no acknowledgement. I feel they deserve no respect for this. see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47939527 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47939527
- scosman 6mo agoBut calling it OpenAlacritty would be worse, which is what happened here.
- SwellJoe 6mo agoI don't know anything about that (I didn't know what Warp was until yesterday, still kinda don't know, as it seems to be a terminal plus AI and I don't know what that actually means). But, alacritty's license seems to allow proprietary forks. The license requires copyright notice to follow the code and that seems to be present: https://github.com/warpdotdev/warp/blob/6d7a01cc9727472a1bcb3428c32227739efdcb99/crates/warp_terminal/src/model/LICENSE-ALACRITTY https://github.com/warpdotdev/warp/blob/6d7a01cc9727472a1bcb... I dunno if they adhered to the license previous to open sourcing, though, as you have to include it somewhere in the actual binary distribution, as well, and some folks don't do that. And, that's also shitty and unethical.
- ElijahLynn 6mo agoAgreed. They should not be using the name Warp inside of the fork.