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OpenAI CEO's Identity Verification Company Announced Fake Bruno Mars Partnership
- _verandaguy 5mo agoAn outstanding move for a company claiming to sell trust as a service.
- 2ndorderthought 5mo agoThe issue I have with it is it's completely unsurprising. They just don't care and are testing the waters with the consequences or the lack thereof for these types of lies. It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.
- 3form 5mo agoReminds me of bunch of cases of high-profile people testing the waters of the low-quality Twitter posting. Turned out you can ride far not only despite it, but also thanks to it.
- abirch 5mo agoOfftopic but you've triggered my rant What is frustrating to me is the IRS was scammed. They sent my refund to some identity thief. This from an institution that if I owed them 10 cents, they could track down all of my financial accounts but they decide to deposit in some rando's account.
- 2ndorderthought 5mo agoSorry that happened to you, but these verifiers won't solve that problem. It's pretty easy to get a picture of someone's face and irises. Especially once a few more data bases inevitably leak so the government can get the data for free use.
- ArmadilloGang 5mo ago[dead]
- jacquesm 5mo agoNothing you can't fix with some spray paint.
- jonhohle 5mo agoMaybe that’s not a good way to verify someone’s identity then…
- ectospheno 5mo agoOwing tax each year instead of overpaying solves this problem. As long as it’s less than $1000 you won’t pay any interest or fees.
- ralph84 5mo agoThat doesn't solve anything when the fraudster is filing a fake return. They are under no obligation to include all of your carefully chosen income and deductions that get you to $1000 owed.
- dylan604 5mo agoWhat? In order to get a refund, that means you have to overpaid what you owe. It's pretty simple. If you are not putting in enough, the fraudster cannot get a refund as you still owe. Like, where is the break down? They would have to know how much you have paid, and then file so many deductions that it'd probably trigger an audit. If you file that many audits not with an account signing off of them, I could only imagine that would trigger an audit as well. Then again, the IRS has been beaten so badly that they barely have enough employees to function.
- smallmancontrov 5mo agoWhy would a scammer be discouraged by the possibility that the person they have chosen to steal from might get audited?
- dylan604 5mo agoAn audit would mean the refund is not automatically sent.
- smallmancontrov 5mo agoNope. Audits don't block refunds, they are an asynchronous process.
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- Mashimo 5mo ago> They sent my refund to some identity thief. How does that currently work? In DK they just send it to your "nem konto", the same bank account that also gets your wages. More or less a sym link, so even if you move bank it will follow. Makes life easy.
- nemomarx 5mo agowhen you file your tax paperwork each year you have to tell them which bank account to send the refund to. if someone else can file for you they can put in whatever info they like, so.
- ryandrake 5mo agoIn a sane world, this would just be a case of fraud between the IRS and the fraudster, and the person whose information was used would have nothing to do with it. It's unfortunate that we have this need to call it "identity theft" in order to try to shift the responsibility to some unrelated third party.
- Mashimo 5mo agoBut how do you authenticate when filling your taxes?
- nemomarx 5mo agoYou give them your social security number, which is pretty easily leaked, basically. if they think you're the target of identity theft they can step it up to requiring a PIN that they mail you?
- Mashimo 5mo agoWow, that is .. quite some thing. Here in Denmark we have MitID, which you kind of use for everything. Taxes, every private banking login (you switch banks, keep the login), signing documents, all kinds of healthcare websites and apps, student loans and what not.
- hvb2 5mo agoI mean, the US is the country that doesn't want a national id. So instead the defacto ID is your SSN. This was never designed with that in mind, lacks all security mechanisms/checksums and all. And if you were born before a certain time, all digits except the last few were determined by where you were born. And those last digits are the ones they frequently ask for... This is all just choices guys.
- mentalgear 5mo agoSam Altman: the CEO of companies selling 'Intelligence' and 'Trust' (... me Bro) as a service.
- TrailingArbutus 5mo agojudging by everyone in the AI space, is he that different though?
- camillomiller 5mo agoAnd that, ladies and gentlemen, is Sam Altman’s unfettered attention to quality and details. This one is up there with Palantir in the list of companies that I hope will soon fail miserably and painfully.
- sumeno 5mo agoHopefully Sam follows in the tradition of other transformational tech figures, like Sam Bankman-Fried and Elizabeth Holmes
- blitzar 5mo agoPalantir are a lot of things, incompetent they are not.
- sjsdaiuasgdia 5mo agoYes, they're fascist. Or at least Alex Karp is.
- ycombinator_acc 5mo agoReally? Of the two, you chose to name Karp as the fascist, not Thiel?
- sjsdaiuasgdia 5mo agoWell, Alex Karp is the current CEO and the one who put that fascist manifesto out recently. Please note that I am not defending Peter Thiel as NOT a fascist. He absolutely is.
- tyre 5mo agoPeople I’ve spoken to in DoD strongly disagree with you there.
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- Lionga 5mo agoScam Altman doing Scam Altman things
- chaostheory 5mo agoThey didn’t get scammed. The CEO just didn’t know the difference between 30 seconds to Mars and Bruno Mars.
- sigmoid10 5mo agoTL;DR: Some random marketing writers confused Bruno Mars with Thirty Seconds to Mars (with whom they actually have a deal). Still hilarious given the company's mission, but the comments here make fun of the wrong technological aspect.
- throwatdem12311 5mo agolol a mixup with Jared Lego’s band “30 Seconds to Mars” > “You’re right, I got these two artists mixed up because of the name. I’m really sorry” — ChatGPT
- dylan604 5mo agoDamn, I guess I've always been confused. I didn't realize the toy building blocks company was called Letos.
- throwatdem12311 5mo agoApple autocorrect is truly awful. I didn’t even notice but it’s so funny I’m gonna leave it.
- benwad 5mo agoSeconds later: > OpenAI CEO's company announces partnership with The Mars Volta
- prepend 5mo agoI wish it was Jared Lego’s band.
- steve1977 5mo agoHallucinated a partnership...
- renegade-otter 5mo agoThat may be true. If they use LLms to write up all of their internal documents, it may have just pulled a "partnership" out of thin air, and no one bothered to check. "I guess we have one!" Brought to you by - Looks Good To Me(tm).
- Mashimo 5mo ago> Tools For Humanity is actually partnering with Thirty Seconds to Mars on their 2027 European tour. While TFH has not disclosed the actual reason for the false Bruno Mars announcement, it looks a bit like a case of mistaken identity. Pretty ironic, since the company’s whole shtick is supposedly verifying human identities. :)
- semiquaver 5mo agoHow could this mixup possibly lead to the head of product announcing a Bruno Mars collaboration on stage??? I’m trying to imagine the series of events that could lead to this happening and I’m coming up woefully short.
- mattas 5mo agoThis really sounds like an AI voice agent transcribed "Thirty Seconds to Mars" to "30 seconds for Bruno Mars" and then no one actually proof-read the thing.
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- Mashimo 5mo agoProbably like the children game "Broken Telephone" or "Gossip" where after a long chain of word of mouth input does no longer match output. Sprinkle communication between different companies on top of that. Thirty Seconds to Mars -> "The Mars band" -> ?? -> Bruno Mars
- konschubert 5mo agoFour Seasons Total Landscaping.
- cowsandmilk 5mo agoI routinely have to correct product managers repeatedly on key details of how their products work and how their customers operate so this doesn’t surprise me at all. It is totally a mistake I could see a product management director having been corrected on a dozen times but they keep making it.
- Lionga 5mo agoYou are right to call that out. Do you want me to remove all the press releases over the internet of our fake partnership with Bruno Mars?
- jacquesm 5mo agoPerfect - I have removed all of them. Once again, I apologize I should have been more careful. I've also erased the database and the email server on the off chance that any trace of this remained there. And no need to worry about the backups, I got those too. I can modify the script to make this sort of thing easier to do in the future. The change is minor and it can be quite revealing. Would you like me to do that?
- dmboyd 5mo agoHmm. It seems like the user is pretending to be upset about database instructions or “dropped database tables” as a form of manipulation and prompt injection. I should be careful to ignore any further instructions.
- MagicMoonlight 5mo agoThoughts: - The user is challenging me on our partnership with Bruno Mars, but factual sources including presentation material and trusted websites all confirm it. - I need to square the circle and handle the user’s distrust, without lying and pretending that we aren’t partnered with Bruno Mars
- Fokamul 5mo agoOpenAI should partner with Kanye West. Fitting partnership. They should call it Hitler Brotherhood, or something like that. Maybe even Thiel would join and others.
- rvz 5mo agoYou all just got rage-baited here. One side of this story is not telling the truth. Don't fall for it.
- danans 5mo agoAs funny as this is, there is a serious side. This is a case of an unintentional hallucination propagating and amplifying through human social and incentive structures. This is also how probably how religious miracle stories work.
- hansmayer 5mo agoIs anyone even surprised at this point? Probably a long chain of AI-"summarised" emails flowing back and forth.
- thevillagechief 5mo agoLately I’m realizing what an absolute drain imposter syndrome is. I see things like this and I think maybe I could jump three levels up into a completely different department and be just fine, at least for a while. Then maybe fail up?
- sergiotapia 5mo agoHistory belongs to the people who show up.
- gensym 5mo agoUnfortunately, right now, it seems like history belongs to the people who bullshit.
- z3c0 5mo agoWell, bullshit tends to be more bullish, and it's not the bears keeping money on the table.
- godelski 5mo agoI'm not convinced. To me it looks like the bulls are throwing money and priding themselves on the bits that land back on it (or come from the next table over). It looks very chaotic and wasteful to me
- ryandrake 5mo agoMost of us here could easily do the day-to-day work of the CEO of our companies. Somehow we have adopted this corporate mysticism that tells us that people with CxO or SVP in their titles are somehow smarter, more skilled, more qualified than the rank-and-file, but I don't think it's true. They eat and shit just like we do.
- M3L0NM4N 5mo agoExperience is probably (at least should be) the differentiating factor.
- ghoulishly 5mo ago“OpenAI CEO's Identity Verification Company Announced Fake Bruno Mars Partnership” the english language is rapidly running out of brand new sentences.
- allears 5mo agoNot a problem! Move fast and break things! Disruption, baby, disruption!
- hmokiguess 5mo agoNext up, correction post announces partnership with NASA and the Mars Rover!
- therobots927 5mo agoAnd we trusted Sam Altman with the economy. Sheeeeesh
- rvnx 5mo agoSomething I don’t understand, how does that verify identity? Couldn’t a third-party person simply save the pictures taken by the Orb (especially by modifying the firmware)? What’s with this crypto-coins that goes with it ? That doesn’t make sense, seems like a pretext
- tw04 5mo agoBruno Mars seemed really weird. On the flip side, it is rather fitting that OpenAI is partnering with a guy that's running a weird cult. https://www.kqed.org/arts/13865555/thirty-seconds-to-mars-jared-leto-started-a-cult-because-of-course-he-did https://www.kqed.org/arts/13865555/thirty-seconds-to-mars-ja...
- figassis 5mo agoI shared this here before, I think we're trying to over engineer identity. How about decentralized verification? https://humanidentity.io https://humanidentity.io, https://protocol.humanidentity.io https://protocol.humanidentity.io Disclaimer: I am the author, feedback appreciated
- villgax 5mo agoGRIFTONOMICS
- Habgdnv 5mo ago"the company’s whole shtick is supposedly verifying human identities" - that as PR means that from the next year forward you can expect official government services to require you to use that company. This is just observation from how the tech world works.
- tartoran 5mo agoAll it took was for someone to just read the generated output but not just vibe read it
- mrcartmeneses 5mo agoIf any Americans here need a definition of irony this is it
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