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Did anyone think of the national security implications?

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• cpursley 7mo ago
  Certainly typed out on a Chinese made phone...
  • rationalist 7mo ago
    Whataboutism is not helpful.
    • cpursley 7mo ago
      There's nothing lazier than a whataboutism claim. If we're okay with Chinese made phones and other electronics, then let's give their cheap EVs a chance instead of worrying about a plethora of other hallucinated *isms. Anyways, if the Chinese want to hurt "US" they have plenty of other ways to go about it.
      • rationalist 7mo ago
        > There's nothing lazier than a whataboutism claim. You're right, I guess it is only just slightly more lazy than writing the whataboutism. > if the Chinese want to hurt "US" they have plenty of other ways to go about it. Another what aboutism... Why should those other national governments move away from Microsoft, the U.S. has other ways to hurt those countries.
        • cpursley 7mo ago
          Then drive some Schitty Chevy, what do I care. The rest of us need reliable affordable transportation that won't boil the oceans over. The Chinese are willing to make it, that is a good thing (+ they haven't bombed anyone for quite some time to boot).
          • rationalist 7mo ago
            First it was whataboutisms, now it's trying to disparage me. You're incorrectly assuming I don't want something reliable that's safe for the environment in an attempt to make me look bad because you're defaulting to attacking the person instead of the message.
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      • uni_baconcat 7mo ago
        China is still banning Teslas from driving near government buildings and leaders' motorcades.
        • shimman 7mo ago
          China is smart and recognizes known threats as threats. In the US we give them quasi government positions where they inflicted massive damage causing millions of senseless deaths.
          • uni_baconcat 7mo ago
            Then why China approved Tesla to be the one and only wholly foreign-owned enterprise in vehicle manufacturing?
            • shimman 7mo ago
              Something tells me there are extreme limits on what foreign-owned manufacturing companies are allowed to do, just like the US. It's yet to be seen if Chinese companies will be as civilization destroying as US companies, but the bar is literally rolling on the floor now and all the dice seem to be rolling in China's favor due to the US unable to control their elites that are sucking society dry.
    • rationalist 7mo ago
      Whataboutism is helpful?
• seanmcdirmid 7mo ago
  Google/Waymo is importing a Chinese EV van into the USA and putting in its own electronics (they would have done that anyways, even if it wasn’t banned).
• dingaling 7mo ago
  Retrospectively, yes https://www.forcesnews.com/news/warning-mod-staff-amid-fears-china-could-be-using-electric-vehicles-spy-military https://www.forcesnews.com/news/warning-mod-staff-amid-fears... "Warning stickers banning military workers from discussing sensitive information have been placed inside the Ministry of Defence's electric cars, as fears grow that China could be listening."