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Claude Code is a freely downloadable CLI Agent. Why would they not let you use that anymore?

by UncleOxidant 6mo ago

ezfe 6mo ago
You have to login and authorize it? It costs money to process tokens.
foolswisdom 6mo ago
Because including it in a plan results in un-metered usage?
- UncleOxidant 6mo ago
  My usage of Claude Code in the pro plan is definitely metered. Every couple hours I have to wait an hour or two and the last few weeks I've hit my weekly limit on Wednesday.
_--__--__ 6mo ago
Because 'claude -p' is a backdoor for any third party client to use subsidized token pricing, and they've flipped course again to decide they do want the OpenClaw type users as long as they're on the $100 plan.
- skeledrew 6mo ago
  > Because 'claude -p' is a backdoor for any third party client to use subsidized token pricing Wasn't this obvious from day 1 though? Can't see how anyone could've missed that.
  - _--__--__ 6mo ago
    It was obvious, which is why their earlier decision to attempt to restrict 3p access was hugely unpopular. They're now trying to walk that back but on the condition that those users need to be on the higher plan.
    - skeledrew 6mo ago
      Now they're hurting their popularity with those who actually don't mind using Claude Code. I've been quietly swallowing a lot of performance degradation over the past few weeks as I get the resource crunch, but I'm definitely not going back to copy-pasting between browser and editor. And I have no intention of upgrading to Max or doing per token usage.
      - riffraff 6mo ago
        It seems they were losing money on pro subscriptions with code so if people stop using them it's actually ok for them. They have now moved to be enterprise providers and don't need the cheap pro users as loss leaders anymore.
  - SpicyLemonZest 6mo ago
    The question isn't whether anyone could have missed it, but whether Claude Code has release gates that allow people to require that obvious problems should be resolved. From their release velocity it's pretty clear that they do not.

Claude Code is a freely downloadable CLI Agent. Why would they not let you use that anymore?

ezfe 6mo ago

You have to login and authorize it? It costs money to process tokens.

foolswisdom 6mo ago

Because including it in a plan results in un-metered usage?

UncleOxidant 6mo ago
My usage of Claude Code in the pro plan is definitely metered. Every couple hours I have to wait an hour or two and the last few weeks I've hit my weekly limit on Wednesday.

_--__--__ 6mo ago

Because 'claude -p' is a backdoor for any third party client to use subsidized token pricing, and they've flipped course again to decide they do want the OpenClaw type users as long as they're on the $100 plan.

skeledrew 6mo ago
> Because 'claude -p' is a backdoor for any third party client to use subsidized token pricing Wasn't this obvious from day 1 though? Can't see how anyone could've missed that.
- _--__--__ 6mo ago
  It was obvious, which is why their earlier decision to attempt to restrict 3p access was hugely unpopular. They're now trying to walk that back but on the condition that those users need to be on the higher plan.
  - skeledrew 6mo ago
    Now they're hurting their popularity with those who actually don't mind using Claude Code. I've been quietly swallowing a lot of performance degradation over the past few weeks as I get the resource crunch, but I'm definitely not going back to copy-pasting between browser and editor. And I have no intention of upgrading to Max or doing per token usage.
    - riffraff 6mo ago
      It seems they were losing money on pro subscriptions with code so if people stop using them it's actually ok for them. They have now moved to be enterprise providers and don't need the cheap pro users as loss leaders anymore.
- SpicyLemonZest 6mo ago
  The question isn't whether anyone could have missed it, but whether Claude Code has release gates that allow people to require that obvious problems should be resolved. From their release velocity it's pretty clear that they do not.