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What made the Israel-Palestine conflict profitable for influencers (initially on both sides, I’d guess mostly on the pro-Palestinian side now) before the Iran W
by JumpCrisscross 7mo ago
What made the Israel-Palestine conflict profitable for influencers (initially on both sides, I’d guess mostly on the pro-Palestinian side now) before the Iran War that doesn’t apply to Sudan?
- thaumasiotes 7mo agoAudience interest? Same thing that makes any other videos profitable.
- testdelacc1 7mo agoThere are large groups of people have very strongly negative opinions about one side or the other in Israel-Palestine. Only a tiny fraction of people in Europe or North America could point to Sudan on the map. And even fewer could explain the differences between the factions involved. There’s no simple good-guys-vs-bad-guys rhetoric that’s easy to join.
- tovej 7mo agoI mean, the RSF is very clearly the bad guys in this conflict. The reason there is no coverage is that there is widespread agreement on this point, and western govts aren't directly funding the bad guys as is the case with Israel.
- Mainan_Tagonist 7mo agowestern governments funding Israel? What western governments exactly? Isn't Israel capable of funding itself through its own economy?
- testdelacc1 7mo agoAmerica hands out military aid to Israel. Coupons that can be redeemed for weapons with American manufacturers. It’s a subsidy to Israel and to American military primes. This comes to billions each year. That’s one government though. I can’t think of any other western government funding Israel in a similar way.
- Mainan_Tagonist 7mo ago"That’s one government though. I can’t think of any other western government funding Israel in a similar way." My point, exactly!
- tovej 7mo agoGermany, Great Britain, Finland, many other European partners. They are purchasing military equipment from Israel, funding their development. Many European institutions also have investments in Israel. And arms used in the Palestinian genocide are being produced in European countries.
- testdelacc1 7mo agoI don’t think that would be the common meaning of funding. Funding doesn’t mean “have a commercial relationship with”.
- tovej 7mo agoIt's not just a commercial relationship, Israel is dependent on US subsidies and European trade to fund its war effort, and Europe has shown itself to be very slow at reacting to the genocide. Effectively Europes stance is funding the genocide. Whether a lawyer would consider this funding is besides the point. I think there are very concrete ways to argue that what Europe does would constitute funding, but I don't particularly care about that semantic argument. The main point is that Europes actions support the genocide.
- anovikov 7mo agoI don't get it, why? RSF fights on Ukrainian side, SAF on Russian since 2024. It's the SAF that's the bad guy now. They flipped.
- throwaway27448 7mo agoHow did you manage to make a civil war in sudan about a european conflict? Neither plays much role at all compared to the gulf states and eritrea/ethiopia.
- harvey9 7mo agoAnother reason there's no coverage is nobody in Sudan has the social media expertise and budget that Iran has.
- boxed 7mo ago[flagged]
- tovej 7mo ago"The IDF doesn't want to kill children", he says.
- sosomoxie 7mo agoThere are thousands of videos of Israel murdering children.
- boxed 7mo agoYou know what happens if an Israeli soldier is caught killing non-combatants? They get prosecuted. You know what happens to a Hamas fighter that is caught killing non-combatants? They get a promotion.
- sosomoxie 7mo agoIsraeli soldiers do nothing but kill civilians. They aren’t prosecuted, genocide is literally the foundation of Israel.
- actionfromafar 7mo agoWell they don’t get caught. Either that or small children are enemy combatants. Russia operates the same way. Everyone is a nazi according to them.
- notabotiswear 7mo agoBoth side are the “bad side.” The RSF just wins the award of being the “worst.”
- two_cents 7mo ago[flagged]
- 4gotunameagain 7mo ago[flagged]
- MisterTea 7mo agoThis reads like a bad parody of the Soviet "west = bad" trope. Big wide brush strokes, painting ALL Europeans as somehow enabling this when it was only a few players and likely no real European peoples made decisions beyond a few powerful people. Buffoonish thinking.
- 4gotunameagain 7mo agoOh I am European, and I (or my country) certainly had zero involvement in the events that are playing out now. But they are not critical of them, not aloud at least. As much as I love Europe, we are complicit to this genocide, and we are hypocrites. We laud European values, but only their theory.
- throwhhjs 7mo ago[flagged]
- DFHippie 7mo agoAfter a few hundred years historical injustices move down the priority list. France isn't seeking reparations from Italy for the conquest of Gaul, for example.
- JumpCrisscross 7mo ago> After a few hundred years historical injustices move down the priority list I'm actually curious for you to expand on this. It's broadly, I think, my view. And it's been a reason I've come to disregard pretty much all historical claims to land in the Middle East, focussing on the quality of life of the people alive today where they are over where they or their ancestors were at some arbitrary point in the past. But that largely erupts from me drawing my line between the living and the dead. (International lawyers would draw it at the end of WWII.) How do you draw yours?
- MisterTea 7mo agoThe Sudanese population and diaspora hold no great financial or political influence globally so they have no visibility hence, no audience.
- AndrewKemendo 7mo agoThe most accurate way to say it indeed
- the_arun 7mo agoWe need to say Sudan has natural resources. Eg Oil. The world turns around
- Symmetry 7mo agoIt does have oil. And the reason the UAE is backing the RSF is that they have gold interests there.
- JumpCrisscross 7mo ago> Sudanese population and diaspora hold no great financial or political influence globally so they have no visibility hence, no audience This makes sense. But the Palestinian diaspora is tiny. Did it really kickstart the economics for new content?
- KumaBear 7mo agoWell from a moral perspective our tax dollars are funding the weapons used in the conflict.
- dralley 7mo agoFrom moral perspective, the same entities (UAE, Qatar) who have done the most to raise the profile of the I/P conflict with funds and media campaigns are directly funding and sending weapons to the parties responsible for the genocide in Sudan. Which has much clearer properties of "genocide" than the I/P war, and killed 3 times as many people in the same timeframe despite having far more primitive and less powerful weaponry involved. >> In the first three days of the capture, at least 6,000 killings were documented. 4,400 inside the city. 1,600 more along escape routes. The UN writes explicitly that the actual death toll from the week-long offensive was “undoubtedly significantly higher”. The governor of Darfur spoke of 27,000 killed in the first three days alone. The Khartoum-based think tank Confluence Advisory estimated 100,000. The Yale Humanitarian Research Lab assessed that of the 250,000 civilians remaining in the city, nearly all had been killed, died, been displaced, or were in hiding. >> RSF fighters, according to survivor testimony, said things like “Is there anyone Zaghawa here? If we find Zaghawa, we will kill them all” and “We want to eliminate anything black from Darfur”. Men and boys under 50 were specifically targeted, killed or abducted. Women and girls of the Zaghawa and Fur communities were systematically raped, often in groups, sometimes for hours or days. Those perceived as Arab were often spared.”
- sosomoxie 7mo ago> the same entities (UAE, Qatar) who have done the most to raise the profile of the I/P conflict with funds and media campaigns Israel and its MSM media outlets in the west are the only people “raising the profile” of the colonization of Palestine. Every US politician promotes Israel to the point where they can hardly be said to represent American citizens. That is why people in the west stand against Zionism. It has nothing to do with Qatari boogeymen.
- hollywood_court 7mo agoOur (the US) current leadership is beholden to Israel.
- lostlogin 7mo ago‘Beholden’ might be the wrong work, but Netanyahu sure played this administration. It’s astonishing how easily he got his way. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/us/politics/trump-iran-war.html https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/07/us/politics/trump-iran-wa...
- pmontra 7mo agoIt does not apply. Many vocal Westerners don't find an enemy of their enemy (the USA way to capitalism or to imperialism or pick your -ism) in Sudan so there are no votes to gain, careers to foster, people to gather in protests. "The enemy of my enemy is not my friend but at least is the enemy of my enemy" effect is totally lacking. Who do you protest against? Russia, Saudi Arabia, Iran? As a public figure said in my country about the protests for Gaza, "we protest against our government."
- throwaway27448 7mo agoWhere did influencers come from? They didn't perpetrate the indiscriminate slaughter of an entire people. They certainly didn't cause this war. And when has reporting on a genocide ever brought about its conclusion? maybe you could argue this about the bosnian genocide....?
- boxed 7mo ago[flagged]
- ahhhhnoooo 7mo agoRight, it's not constrained to Gaza. The genocide against Palestinian people is occurring across the nation of Israel.
- boxed 7mo agoPalestinian muslim arabs are 20% of Israels population. Remind me how many percent of Palestine, Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, Iran, Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, are Jewish? This is the worst genocide ever. They even have representation in Knesset. They serve in the IDF.
- newspaper1 7mo agoPalestinians,Lebanese and Iranians (of all religions) represent 100% of the victims of Israel’s genocide.
- boxed 7mo agoIsn't that a good thing? Compared to Hamas who murders its own citizens and random christians who are out dancing?
- ahhhhnoooo 7mo agoI can tell you are unable to approach this topic rationally. No one made the claim this is the worse genocide ever. It does not need to rise to that bar to be a genocide. Your hyperbole is not a good faith effort to discuss the topic. And the whataboutism is a deflection. Genocide is bad everywhere it's occurring. Right now it's occurring in many places, one of which is within Israel/Palestine. If you believe it's also happening elsewhere, we should condemn those as well, not absolve the actions of Netanyahu.
- thrance 7mo agoWhat are you even talking about. There was and still is much more money to be made on the pro-Israel side. Which media magnates have ever sided with Palestinians again? Virtually all the propaganda money goes to defending the actions of Israel in the Middle East. And the thing that motivated so much grassroot support for Palestinians was the West's total material and moral support to the Zionist project, while the genocide in Sudan is much more indirectly related to the West.
- JumpCrisscross 7mo ago> There was and still is much more money to be made on the pro-Israel side Has anyone actually measured this? If I were to create two sock-puppet AI-content accounts and let them loose on social media, I'd guess I'd be monetising at a multiple with the pro-Palestinian one. It's just the more-mainstream position in today's media environment across the aisle.
- thrance 7mo agoI really don't want to dive in this rabbithole, but Israel and its allies are very present online and spend obscene amounts of money to buy influencers, politicians and media. The video of Netanyahou repeating "TikTok, TikTok, TikTok" to sponsored influencers in a seminar comes to mind. And now Ellison, a notorious Zionist, straight up bought the platform to align it with his ideas. There is nothing even remotely comparable happening on the other side. Based on platform revenue though, certainly pro-Palestinian content must be generating more organic clicks and views, seeing how this conflict has become a 90-10 issue among liberals. But that's not where the lion share of profits are made. Certainly, if I was a morally bankrupt influencer/politician/journalist, I know which side I'd pick to maximize my income.
- unpopularopp 7mo ago[flagged]
- newspaper1 7mo agoIsrael’s genocide has nothing to do with “influencers” and everything to do with stealing land. The “profit” is Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon and the whole of Palestine post-Balfour Agreement. Some blue check on Twitter does not register.