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Russia's doping program is run by the same FSB team that poisoned Navalny

99 points by dralley 6mo ago

JohnnyLarue 6mo ago
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- selfsigned 6mo ago
  https://www.gov.uk/government/news/joint-statement-by-the-uk-sweden-france-germany-and-the-netherlands-on-alexei-navalnys-death https://www.gov.uk/government/news/joint-statement-by-the-uk... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/14/alexei-navalny-poisoning-death-russia-frog-toxin https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/14/alexei-navalny... "Alexei Navalny, the Russian opposition leader, was killed by dart frog poison administered by the Russian state two years ago, a multi-intelligence agency inquiry has found, according to a statement released by five countries, the UK, France, Germany, Sweden and the Netherlands" Oh reeeaaaaally? Interesting comment history you have too.
  - cenamus 6mo ago
    Not at all one sided... Forcing Ukraine into every second conversation and shitting on them
konart 6mo ago
FSB's Second Service are also the ones who deal with the internet shitshow now. https://meduza.io/en/news/2026/04/16/report-fsb-unit-linked-to-navalny-poisoning-now-controls-russia-s-internet https://meduza.io/en/news/2026/04/16/report-fsb-unit-linked-... https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2026/04/15/russian-websites-begin-blocking-vpn-users-as-internet-controls-tighten-a92511 https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2026/04/15/russian-websites-b...
alephnerd 6mo ago
First there was Nemtsov, then there was Navlany. Wonder who's next. Funny thing is, if 1999 went differently Lukashenka actually had a shot at being in the Kremlin today.
- haght 6mo ago
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varispeed 6mo ago
Imagine if all Russians put their energy into making world a better place, instead of killing their neighbours, raping, stealing and corrupting. Sad.
- lifestyleguru 6mo ago
  The west is secretly in love with this malevolence, that's why.
  - Svoka 6mo ago
    Yup, they call it 'mysterious russian soul', while it just a blatant disregard to human life
- Svoka 6mo ago
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- Mikhail_Edoshin 6mo ago
  Or maybe Westerners stop lying that much.
- throwaway27448 6mo ago
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  - stephbook 6mo ago
    Please share it with us.
  - mindslight 6mo ago
    Obviously something a bit more on the hyperbolic sensationalist side, but closer to the truth than the simplistic ignore-your-own-eyes contrarianism peddled by Russian propaganda. FWIW your comment is the type that makes me go back and upvote GP.
    - AlexeyBelov 6mo ago
gavinray 6mo ago
I don't condone doping in tested sports, but I think there needs to be recognition that preventing athletes from modifying their biochemistry turns most sports into a genetic lottery showcase. Here is what I mean: Suppose that two men are born, with identical brains, but very different bodies. Both of them have a single desire: to be the fastest sprinter in the world. Man A) - Predominantly fast-twitch muscle fiber composition - Possesses ACTN3 RX genotype [0] - Testosterone, Growth Hormone, IGF-1 levels at the very upper end of reference range Man B) - Predominantly slow-twitch muscle fiber composition - Possesses ACTN3 XX genotype - Clinically deficient values of Testosterone, Growth Hormone, IGF-1. Prone to musculoskeletal injuries, possibly connective tissue disorders. If these two men live an identical life, and put the same amount of effort into training, the second man still has no hope of making it to the Olympics. Even doping would only be able to correct for hormonal deficiencies, not the genome-level disadvantages for power performance compared to the other athlete. A truly "fair" sport would pit competitors against each other who had near-identical genetic and physical traits. The Olympics is just watching the people who won genetic lotteries. [0]: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11014841/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11014841/
- speedgoose 6mo ago
  Yeah so athletes with more money and better access to doping products win instead. Hard pass.
  - kelipso 6mo ago
    Also will encourage athletes to give themselves long term health issues for short term performance gains.
    - gavinray 6mo ago
      I'm of the "your body, your choice" mind To me the decision to take PED's doesn't feel different than being an alcoholic or having an abortion. I wouldn't recommend anyone become an alcoholic, but it's their life and people ought to have the freedom of choice.
stefantalpalaru 6mo ago
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scihuber 6mo ago
More scary articles I think: https://theins.press/en/inv/290235 https://theins.press/en/inv/290235 - Lost in translation: How Russia’s new elite hit squad was compromised by an idiotic lapse in tradecraft https://theins.press/en/inv/287837 https://theins.press/en/inv/287837 - The mob’s humanitarian backdoor: Ramzan Kadyrov’s mafia connections reach deep into German critical infrastructure
RomanPushkin 6mo ago
How it is hacker news now?
- bigyabai 6mo ago
  Christo does excellent investigative journalism, his curiosity is well aligned with many of the people on this site.
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secondary_op 6mo ago
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- faangguyindia 6mo ago
  You don't need 3 letter agencies. Billionaires and Tech Executives from CA do it all time too. Heck one even threatened to eliminate me because I was working on competing ad tech low latency system. I was much younger back then completely shook.
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thatsamejew2 6mo ago
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hax0ron3 6mo ago
I always wonder about Navalny - why did he go back to Russia? Did he really believe that he could do some kind of Nelson Mandela thing? Or that the Russian people would flock to his cause? I believe that the man was an idealist, I don't think you expose yourself to that much danger without being an idealist at least on some level or thinking that the possible personal rewards make the danger worth it, and I don't get the sense from Navalny that he was after personal rewards primarily. But with his experience in Russian politics, I feel like he should have known that the chance that his return to Russia would bring about any serious political change was extremely small. Not returning to Russia would have hurt his chances of causing political change as well, since that would have made him seem like just an agent of the Western powers. But returning to Russia at the cost of his life also did not accomplish political change.
- halJordan 6mo ago
  I think you just have to accept that he was built different from someone like you. I think it's kind of a form of disrespect to say "why would someone do that?" We know exactly why he did it, he had a level of passion you don't. It's okay for you to not be passionate about anything on the level of giving up your life, but you shouldn't act like that doesn't exist or is an odd weird thing you're could never understand
  - thatsamejew2 6mo ago
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    - saikia81 6mo ago
      Your point doesn't come across here? And doesn't seem to have any direct reactions to the comment above. Any proof or source for your claims would help. Also no reason to be rude.
      - thatsamejew2 6mo ago
        Proof or source.. I talked to young Navalny supporters. They are ignorant and don't have much regard for what others feel or think. Their speech is violent. I read what his circle wrote and writes. On their main news outlet, "the echo of Moscow", closed aftrr the war started, they did not allow anyone of opinion different from theirs to speak (comments were filtered just as they are in the west, so much for "freedom of opinion"). But besides that, many comments were allowed to pass through which were racist anti Russian. "How can Russians be racist anti Russian?". Well, these people were not really Russian, you see, and I will not expand on this more. Then, his circle is not some naive intelligentsia. No, these are people actively collaborating with western "entities". They know what they are being paid for (payment is not necessarily a bank transaction). And they know what revolutions mean in Russia.
PearlRiver 6mo ago
Sport fan clowns always say you have to separate politics from the Olympics. Well guess what my own country is sponsoring athletes because the whole fucking show is just a way for countries to show off. Not sure what we are showing off to be honest- although I did clap for the nice Somali ex refugee lady who is now a professional athlete.

99 points by dralley 6mo ago

JohnnyLarue 6mo ago

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selfsigned 6mo ago
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/joint-statement-by-the-uk-sweden-france-germany-and-the-netherlands-on-alexei-navalnys-death https://www.gov.uk/government/news/joint-statement-by-the-uk... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/14/alexei-navalny-poisoning-death-russia-frog-toxin https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/14/alexei-navalny... "Alexei Navalny, the Russian opposition leader, was killed by dart frog poison administered by the Russian state two years ago, a multi-intelligence agency inquiry has found, according to a statement released by five countries, the UK, France, Germany, Sweden and the Netherlands" Oh reeeaaaaally? Interesting comment history you have too.
- cenamus 6mo ago
  Not at all one sided... Forcing Ukraine into every second conversation and shitting on them

konart 6mo ago

FSB's Second Service are also the ones who deal with the internet shitshow now. https://meduza.io/en/news/2026/04/16/report-fsb-unit-linked-to-navalny-poisoning-now-controls-russia-s-internet https://meduza.io/en/news/2026/04/16/report-fsb-unit-linked-... https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2026/04/15/russian-websites-begin-blocking-vpn-users-as-internet-controls-tighten-a92511 https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2026/04/15/russian-websites-b...

alephnerd 6mo ago

First there was Nemtsov, then there was Navlany. Wonder who's next. Funny thing is, if 1999 went differently Lukashenka actually had a shot at being in the Kremlin today.

haght 6mo ago
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varispeed 6mo ago

Imagine if all Russians put their energy into making world a better place, instead of killing their neighbours, raping, stealing and corrupting. Sad.

lifestyleguru 6mo ago
The west is secretly in love with this malevolence, that's why.
- Svoka 6mo ago
  Yup, they call it 'mysterious russian soul', while it just a blatant disregard to human life
Svoka 6mo ago
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Mikhail_Edoshin 6mo ago
Or maybe Westerners stop lying that much.
throwaway27448 6mo ago
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- stephbook 6mo ago
  Please share it with us.
- mindslight 6mo ago
  Obviously something a bit more on the hyperbolic sensationalist side, but closer to the truth than the simplistic ignore-your-own-eyes contrarianism peddled by Russian propaganda. FWIW your comment is the type that makes me go back and upvote GP.
  - AlexeyBelov 6mo ago

gavinray 6mo ago

I don't condone doping in tested sports, but I think there needs to be recognition that preventing athletes from modifying their biochemistry turns most sports into a genetic lottery showcase. Here is what I mean: Suppose that two men are born, with identical brains, but very different bodies. Both of them have a single desire: to be the fastest sprinter in the world. Man A) - Predominantly fast-twitch muscle fiber composition - Possesses ACTN3 RX genotype [0] - Testosterone, Growth Hormone, IGF-1 levels at the very upper end of reference range Man B) - Predominantly slow-twitch muscle fiber composition - Possesses ACTN3 XX genotype - Clinically deficient values of Testosterone, Growth Hormone, IGF-1. Prone to musculoskeletal injuries, possibly connective tissue disorders. If these two men live an identical life, and put the same amount of effort into training, the second man still has no hope of making it to the Olympics. Even doping would only be able to correct for hormonal deficiencies, not the genome-level disadvantages for power performance compared to the other athlete. A truly "fair" sport would pit competitors against each other who had near-identical genetic and physical traits. The Olympics is just watching the people who won genetic lotteries. [0]: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11014841/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11014841/

speedgoose 6mo ago
Yeah so athletes with more money and better access to doping products win instead. Hard pass.
- kelipso 6mo ago
  Also will encourage athletes to give themselves long term health issues for short term performance gains.
  - gavinray 6mo ago
    I'm of the "your body, your choice" mind To me the decision to take PED's doesn't feel different than being an alcoholic or having an abortion. I wouldn't recommend anyone become an alcoholic, but it's their life and people ought to have the freedom of choice.

stefantalpalaru 6mo ago

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scihuber 6mo ago

More scary articles I think: https://theins.press/en/inv/290235 https://theins.press/en/inv/290235 - Lost in translation: How Russia’s new elite hit squad was compromised by an idiotic lapse in tradecraft https://theins.press/en/inv/287837 https://theins.press/en/inv/287837 - The mob’s humanitarian backdoor: Ramzan Kadyrov’s mafia connections reach deep into German critical infrastructure

RomanPushkin 6mo ago

How it is hacker news now?

bigyabai 6mo ago
Christo does excellent investigative journalism, his curiosity is well aligned with many of the people on this site.

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secondary_op 6mo ago

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faangguyindia 6mo ago
You don't need 3 letter agencies. Billionaires and Tech Executives from CA do it all time too. Heck one even threatened to eliminate me because I was working on competing ad tech low latency system. I was much younger back then completely shook.
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thatsamejew2 6mo ago

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hax0ron3 6mo ago

I always wonder about Navalny - why did he go back to Russia? Did he really believe that he could do some kind of Nelson Mandela thing? Or that the Russian people would flock to his cause? I believe that the man was an idealist, I don't think you expose yourself to that much danger without being an idealist at least on some level or thinking that the possible personal rewards make the danger worth it, and I don't get the sense from Navalny that he was after personal rewards primarily. But with his experience in Russian politics, I feel like he should have known that the chance that his return to Russia would bring about any serious political change was extremely small. Not returning to Russia would have hurt his chances of causing political change as well, since that would have made him seem like just an agent of the Western powers. But returning to Russia at the cost of his life also did not accomplish political change.

halJordan 6mo ago
I think you just have to accept that he was built different from someone like you. I think it's kind of a form of disrespect to say "why would someone do that?" We know exactly why he did it, he had a level of passion you don't. It's okay for you to not be passionate about anything on the level of giving up your life, but you shouldn't act like that doesn't exist or is an odd weird thing you're could never understand
- thatsamejew2 6mo ago
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  - saikia81 6mo ago
    Your point doesn't come across here? And doesn't seem to have any direct reactions to the comment above. Any proof or source for your claims would help. Also no reason to be rude.
    - thatsamejew2 6mo ago
      Proof or source.. I talked to young Navalny supporters. They are ignorant and don't have much regard for what others feel or think. Their speech is violent. I read what his circle wrote and writes. On their main news outlet, "the echo of Moscow", closed aftrr the war started, they did not allow anyone of opinion different from theirs to speak (comments were filtered just as they are in the west, so much for "freedom of opinion"). But besides that, many comments were allowed to pass through which were racist anti Russian. "How can Russians be racist anti Russian?". Well, these people were not really Russian, you see, and I will not expand on this more. Then, his circle is not some naive intelligentsia. No, these are people actively collaborating with western "entities". They know what they are being paid for (payment is not necessarily a bank transaction). And they know what revolutions mean in Russia.

PearlRiver 6mo ago

Sport fan clowns always say you have to separate politics from the Olympics. Well guess what my own country is sponsoring athletes because the whole fucking show is just a way for countries to show off. Not sure what we are showing off to be honest- although I did clap for the nice Somali ex refugee lady who is now a professional athlete.