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I moved two servers, one from Linode and the other from DO to Hetzner a few months ago, with similar savings. The best part was that the two servers had tens of
by antirez 6mo ago
I moved two servers, one from Linode and the other from DO to Hetzner a few months ago, with similar savings. The best part was that the two servers had tens of different sites running, implemented in different languages, with obsolete libraries, MySQL and Redis instances. A total mess. Well: Claude Code migrated it all, sometimes rewriting parts when the libraries where no longer available. Today complex migrations are much simpler to perform, which, I believe, will increase the mobility across providers a lot.
- rustyhancock 6mo agoWow a Claude add embedded into a Hetzner add. How deep does this go?
- antirez 6mo ago"ad", with a single "d". So it's a Claude ad inside a Hetzner ad inside a decent grammar ad.
- mirekrusin 6mo agoAd for which elementary school?
- FEELmyAGI 6mo agoCome on can you really nitpick grammar when your original message contains: "when the libraries where[sic] no longer available" Btw this type of grammar error can be found by proofreading your posts with ChatGPT powered OpenClaw assistant.
- brianwawok 6mo agoYou forgot that this entire forum is a VC/incubator ad. Its ads all the way down.
- airstrike 6mo agoDon't forget the ad hominem
- zephen 6mo agoThe amount of ad populum around this issue certainly reaches ad absurdum levels.
- senordevnyc 6mo agoBy this logic your most recent comment was just an ad for Netflix.
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- sph 6mo agoI have just seen with my own eyes Claude astroturfing on a gamedev subreddit from a botting account that was picked up by Google so I could see a few of their other comments. This account's operation was going on development subs complaining about how good Claude's latest model is and how awful it is being afraid of losing one's job to AI. I know your comment is tongue-in-cheek and the poster here is kinda known, but this kind of astroturfing is a new low and it's everywhere on forums such as these.
- refulgentis 6mo agoI was really confused, then, realized the person you’re replying to misspelled “ad” as "add", and you’re moving forward with the premises GP is an ad, and this HN submission is an ad. Then, you share you saw a Reddit account on a gamedev subreddit complaining AI is too good, & they're worried they won’t have a job, and you believe that Reddit account must have been an ad for AI. Just noting for fellow just-waking-up people (edit: OP edited)
- rdevilla 6mo agoThe whole internet is like this now, and it's only just getting started. Makes me sick tbh, and I am still questioning if this is the kind of industry I want to work in.
- MikeNotThePope 6mo agoFor those who remember Digg, the recently relaunched a new version and shut it down almost immediately. They were getting hammered with AI bots when it was realized the Digg apparently still has good SEO. The explain it right on homepage. https://digg.com/ https://digg.com/
- dwedge 6mo agoThey explained it with an AI generated post
- sph 6mo ago> I am still questioning if this is the kind of industry I want to work in I'm not. I stick around for the popcorn, and I'm not gonna miss the schadenfreude in a few years.
- tmpz22 6mo agoIts certainly a choice to accuse antirez of all people
- Bridged7756 6mo agoTrue, let's not criticize those saints of ours.
- jnwatson 6mo agoI think it is more the other direction. I asked Claude how to save money on my cloud costs, and it suggested migrating from DO to Hetzner.
- rpcope1 6mo agoI mean if it were anyone else, yeah I might agree, but I think Salvatore is being genuine here (and have seen Claude do a similarly surprising job fixing ops issues).
- oulipo2 6mo agoI don't think so. I think he's clearly abusing language (saying "Claude Code migrated the stufff", rather than "I migrated the stuff after using Claude to help write boilerplate, then I went on double-checking it, testing it, and then running it")
- pythonaut_16 6mo agoI don't think you've nailed it either. He SHOULD be saying "54 days ago, I powered on my computer and opened a terminal. From my editor I reviewed my code files and realized I had quite a mess on my hands. Realizing it was the year A.D. 2026, I decided to fire up a modern tool. I typed "claude" into my terminal. As it launched I told it I wanted helping taking my running programs and moving them from the virtual private servers I was running in Linode (inc) and Digital Ocean (co) to Hetzner (LLC). As Claude used it's tool use abilities it read the files and made suggestions on how to do the migrations, it indicated that it could go ahead and copy the files and run the needed commands but I would need to give it permission first. I granted it permission. Once it said the services were running, I instructed it to test that they were accessible and reliable while I reviewed the glowing new code it had written. In summary, with the help of Claude Code I was able to redeploy 37 services in Hetzner."
- godot 6mo agoIt would seem that way for sure, if it was just a random anon posting it, but the person you're replying to is the creator of Redis so I feel it's more likely a genuine opinion/experience rather than a Claude ad...
- atherton94027 6mo agoThis is the redis guy you're replying to, I doubt he's on Claude's payroll
- post-it 6mo agoDo folks see a mention of Claude as indicative of an ad? I usually say it because at work we've got a couple different options and I like to mention which one in particular I was using. But maybe I'll just start saying AI on forums unless someone asks me to specify.
- EasyMark 6mo agoI doubt if someone who has 30000+ karma waited for this precise post to submit a "clever" claude ad surreptitiously to draw you in.
- whatisthiseven 6mo agoIt's quite telling there are no other recommendations for "bare metal hosting" on HN other than Hetzner. I guess no others in the world exist? Or maybe it's just advertising/astro-turfing. At some point it has to be obvious.
- m00dy 6mo agoyeah, everything is about to be repriced.
- tannhaeuser 6mo agoNot every fscking story has to be about AI.
- sph 6mo agoThey really can't help themselves showing how they didn't put any effort doing a thing.
- pedrosorio 6mo agoYeah, OP is famous for never having put effort into anything, just an AI shill /s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvatore_Sanfilippo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvatore_Sanfilippo This whole thread is hilarious.
- locknitpicker 6mo ago> They really can't help themselves showing how they didn't put any effort doing a thing. I would be proud to show that I managed to take one of the most radical changes we can do to a system, which would otherwise be practically unthinkable, and use a tool to make it trivial ton pull off.
- nutjob2 6mo agoYou may not be interested in AI, but AI is interested in you.
- mixmastamyk 6mo agoI use that phrase with "done with Microsoft," but it fits well here too!
- freedomben 6mo agoThey didn't make it about AI, they mentioned a tool that helped with the migration. I find it relevant and helpful to know. I don't see it as much different from "I used script X to do it" or something.
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- cyanydeez 6mo agoNow imagine you can do that with a local model. You're basically breaking lockin on _Every_ end. Simply beautiful. A digital guillotine for the digital elite!
- qudat 6mo agoI’ve been experimenting with letting a local agent manipulate my remote servers using https://bower.sh/zmx-ai-portal https://bower.sh/zmx-ai-portal What’s exciting is how simple cli tools can be so impactful to dev workflows
- elcritch 6mo agoI've been using Codex to make Ansible scripts to setup various servers. Its a nice in between.
- p_stuart82 6mo agoIMO nobody was paying for magic compute. they're paying to not touch ten years of glue. if agents eat that glue, the moat gets thin fast.
- grim_io 6mo ago> agents eat that glue No wonder they hallucinate :)
- andyhedges 6mo agoIt's when they sniff the glue, then things get wild.
- zamadatix 6mo agoYeah, at the last job there was a single outdated external wiki server left sitting in DO for those kinds of reasons while everything updated and internal had moved already (if not twice). If it hadn't become such a security risk it would never have been moved.
- drewnick 6mo agoThe problem is a lot of this glue is proprietary by design at the various cloud services. I realize there are open source and alternative abstractions for a lot of of the same services, but there’s still quite a bit of glue if you’re on AWS, for example, and looking to move to bare metal. But maybe I’m just thinking of the current capabilities of agents, and if we fast forward a couple years, even removing these abstractions or migrating will be very low friction.
- oulipo2 6mo agoSure, and then you realize it deleted the db to "simplify the migration" lol Obviously I agree that AI can be useful to write boilerplate, but it's in no way something you should use blindly when trying to do a migration or anything touching prod So, to be more precise: no, "Claude Code didn't migrate it all". Claude Code helped you write boilerplate so that you could migrate
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- zephen 6mo agoClaude gave him the courage to do the migration. And, recent research suggests that anthropomorphization may actually be positively correlated with intelligence.
- pbgcp2026 6mo agoit deleted the db to "simplify the migration". That was real scenario of at least one Sev 1 outages in "leading cloud provider".
- drewnick 6mo agoI too, am bravely using Claude for more DevOps. I run all of my virtual machines on proxmox atop bare metal servers I own and I’m just blown away at how quickly Claude can optimize and set up entire new networks across all of these machines. Truly feels like a coworker or well paid sysadmin.
- pbgcp2026 6mo ago"servers I own" - that's a temporary glitch and AI will fix it for ... someone else.
- jgalt212 6mo ago> Today complex migrations are much simpler to perform, which, I believe, will increase the mobility across providers a lot. Syntax did a nice episode on this topic recently. They went over where it works well, and where it does not work well. https://syntax.fm/show/992/migrating-legacy-code-just-got-easier https://syntax.fm/show/992/migrating-legacy-code-just-got-ea...
- fuckinpuppers 6mo agoLinode is going to lose my business in the next couple months as well. Been there over a decade, have referred countless customers to them, but they’ve kept bumping up prices over and over and I can get a dedicated server at Hetzner or other places with 8x the memory, dedicated NVMe disks, dedicated CPU for cheaper. Sure you lose a little of the benefit of a “virtual” server which can be migrated but Hetzner’s support has always been super fast and capable, should I wind up in a situation where I’ve got downtime.
- pbgcp2026 6mo ago... expect Hetzner raising prices in ... 3 ... 2 ... 1
- TiredOfLife 6mo agoLinode was bought by Akamai couple years ago.
- gib444 6mo agoLet me guess: the Pro subscription was totally sufficient even using the expensive model and it only took an hour?
- alsetmusic 6mo agoI decided to put some tiny data online for a sync service for myself. I didn't want to learn some of the things that needed to be involved and had an agent do it for me. I wasn't willing to risk my real server incase the agent left security holes. I got a dedicated VPS just for the one thing and it did everything. I don't have a perfect understanding of possible openings that might have been left by misconfiguration. The data in question is so trivial that it doesn't matter to me if it's read so long as my VPS doesn't become party to a botnet and I can monitor to make sure that doesn't happen and shut it down if it does.