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Yep, and I just made a recommendation that was essentially "never enable Opus 4.7" to my org as a direct result. We have Opus 4.6 (3x) and Opus 4.5 (3x) enable

Yep, and I just made a recommendation that was essentially "never enable Opus 4.7" to my org as a direct result. We have Opus 4.6 (3x) and Opus 4.5 (3x) enabled currently. They are worth it for planning. At 7.5x for 4.7, heck no. It isn't even clear it is an upgrade over Opus 4.6.

bwat49 6mo ago
in copilot I find it hard to justify using opus at even 3x vs just using GPT 5.4 high at 1x
- d0100 6mo ago
  I went from plan with opus, implement with claude, to simply plan and implement with GPT 5.4 It's a very good model for a very good price
  - WithinReason 6mo ago
    What is "claude"?
GaryBluto 6mo ago
Microsoft are going to be removing Opus 4.5 and 4.6 from Copilot soon so I'd enjoy the lower cost while it lasts.
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solenoid0937 6mo ago
I don't know how you guys are not seeing 4.7 as an upgrade, it just does so much more, so much better. I guess lower complexity tasks are saturated though.
- _puk 6mo ago
  Anecdotally, been leaning on 4.6 heavily, and today 4.7 hallucinated on some agentic research it was doing. Not seen it do that before. When pushed it did the 'ol "whoopsie, silly me"; turned out the hallucination had been flagged by the agent and ignored by Opus. Makes it hard to trust it, which sucks as it's a heavy part of my workflow.
chewz 6mo ago
7.5 is promotional rate, it will go up to 25. And in May you will be switched to per token billing. Opus 4.5 and 4.6 will be removed very soon. So what is your contingency plan?
- carlinm 6mo ago
  Are you saying github copilot is switching to a per token billing model? If so, you have a link to that?
- Someone1234 6mo ago
  Can you link to a source for anything you're claiming?
  - slopinthebag 6mo ago
    https://github.blog/changelog/2026-04-16-claude-opus-4-7-is-generally-available/ https://github.blog/changelog/2026-04-16-claude-opus-4-7-is-... > Over the coming weeks, Opus 4.7 will replace Opus 4.5 and Opus 4.6 in the model picker for Copilot Pro+. > This model is launching with a 7.5× premium request multiplier as part of promotional pricing until April 30th TBF, it's a rumour that they are switching to per-token price in May, but it's from an insider (apparently), and seeing how good of a deal the current per-request pricing is, everyone expects them to bump prices sometime soon or switch to per-token pricing.
    - phainopepla2 6mo ago
      The per-request pricing is ridiculous (in a good way, for the user). You can get so much done on a single prompt if you build the right workflow. I'm sure they'll change it soon
      - p1necone 6mo ago
        Yeah it seems insane that it's priced this way to me too. Using sonnet/opus through a ~$40 a month copilot plan gives me at least an order of magnitude more usage than a ~$40 a month claude code plan (the usage limits on the latter are so low that it's effectively not a viable choice, at least for my use cases). The models are limited to 160k token context length but in practice that's not a big deal. Unless MS has a very favourable contract with Anthropic or they're running the models on their own hardware there's no way they're making money on this.
peheje 6mo ago
Manage the budget not the impl. Top down decisions like "use a cheap model" risk optimize for the wrong things. If we lose 90% cache hit on the expensive models to context switch to a cheap one, there's no savings. Set the budget, let the devs optimize.

bwat49 6mo ago

in copilot I find it hard to justify using opus at even 3x vs just using GPT 5.4 high at 1x

d0100 6mo ago
I went from plan with opus, implement with claude, to simply plan and implement with GPT 5.4 It's a very good model for a very good price
- WithinReason 6mo ago
  What is "claude"?

GaryBluto 6mo ago

Microsoft are going to be removing Opus 4.5 and 4.6 from Copilot soon so I'd enjoy the lower cost while it lasts.

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solenoid0937 6mo ago

I don't know how you guys are not seeing 4.7 as an upgrade, it just does so much more, so much better. I guess lower complexity tasks are saturated though.

_puk 6mo ago
Anecdotally, been leaning on 4.6 heavily, and today 4.7 hallucinated on some agentic research it was doing. Not seen it do that before. When pushed it did the 'ol "whoopsie, silly me"; turned out the hallucination had been flagged by the agent and ignored by Opus. Makes it hard to trust it, which sucks as it's a heavy part of my workflow.

chewz 6mo ago

7.5 is promotional rate, it will go up to 25. And in May you will be switched to per token billing. Opus 4.5 and 4.6 will be removed very soon. So what is your contingency plan?

carlinm 6mo ago
Are you saying github copilot is switching to a per token billing model? If so, you have a link to that?
Someone1234 6mo ago
Can you link to a source for anything you're claiming?
- slopinthebag 6mo ago
  https://github.blog/changelog/2026-04-16-claude-opus-4-7-is-generally-available/ https://github.blog/changelog/2026-04-16-claude-opus-4-7-is-... > Over the coming weeks, Opus 4.7 will replace Opus 4.5 and Opus 4.6 in the model picker for Copilot Pro+. > This model is launching with a 7.5× premium request multiplier as part of promotional pricing until April 30th TBF, it's a rumour that they are switching to per-token price in May, but it's from an insider (apparently), and seeing how good of a deal the current per-request pricing is, everyone expects them to bump prices sometime soon or switch to per-token pricing.
  - phainopepla2 6mo ago
    The per-request pricing is ridiculous (in a good way, for the user). You can get so much done on a single prompt if you build the right workflow. I'm sure they'll change it soon
    - p1necone 6mo ago
      Yeah it seems insane that it's priced this way to me too. Using sonnet/opus through a ~$40 a month copilot plan gives me at least an order of magnitude more usage than a ~$40 a month claude code plan (the usage limits on the latter are so low that it's effectively not a viable choice, at least for my use cases). The models are limited to 160k token context length but in practice that's not a big deal. Unless MS has a very favourable contract with Anthropic or they're running the models on their own hardware there's no way they're making money on this.

peheje 6mo ago

Manage the budget not the impl. Top down decisions like "use a cheap model" risk optimize for the wrong things. If we lose 90% cache hit on the expensive models to context switch to a cheap one, there's no savings. Set the budget, let the devs optimize.