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Cloudflare Email Service
- Hamuko 6mo agoHow awful is the reputation on those IP addresses going to be?
- bjord 6mo agofinally, more spam!
- john_strinlai 6mo ago>Everyone already has an email address, which means everyone can already interact with your application or agent. And your agent can interact with anyone. please no. >Sending email that actually reaches inboxes usually means wrestling with SPF, DKIM, and DMARC records. When you add your domain to Email Service, we configure all of it automatically. Your emails are authenticated and delivered, not flagged as spam. this is going to be an absolute nightmare for spam. i cant exactly block all of cloudflare... it would be nice if anyone at cloudflare could write about how they plan to proactively reduce abuse of this feature, how they will respond to spam reports, what the punishment for abuse will be, etc.
- moribvndvs 6mo agoWhile we’re adding antiquated and shitty ways to interface with your agent, can we add fax support? Maybe direct-to-mail service for postcards and flyers?
- tclancy 6mo agoI knew I hung onto that C64 cassette player for a reason! Beyond the new Sturgill album, I mean.
- doublerabbit 6mo agoCan we go minidisc if we're going for obsolete tech?
- verdverm 6mo agoThis has been possible for many years, before agents were a thing. They will open the mail and scan the contents into a pdf for you, requires filing a form with the post office. It gets expensive because they nickel and dime you where they can. There are many more services should you wish to send snail mail. https://www.virtualpostmail.com/ https://www.virtualpostmail.com/
- spaghettifythis 6mo agoAs an aside, this company's services seem incredibly sketchy - they let you have fake residential or commercial addresses so you can pretend to have a US office or other address
- verdverm 6mo agoIt's nice for remote companies or contractors so you don't have to use your home address. I'm sure there are sketchy companies in this niche, this was one of the top search results in 2026, not the one I used when I did this.
- amazingamazing 6mo agoMore spam at scale. I wish recipients of email had more control over the conditions to which the email is delivered to them, rather than after the fact curation…
- synkarius 6mo agoAlong these lines, I am experimenting with a two-tiered system where I use Proton's sieve filters to create a sender/cc/bcc whitelist for personal emails (which alert my phone) and a non-Proton collection of burnable aliases for everything else (which do not alert my phone). It doesn't solve the problem completely, but it is mitigating it pretty well so far.
- tornikeo 6mo agoOof. I know of a startup that recently Show HN'd here, the agent mail.to, that is NOT having a good time right now. I don't know what all these new startups having moats thinner than Durex are thinking -- like, what the plan if someone does what you do, faster and cheaper?
- Hendrikto 6mo agoThe plan is to have exited by then. These people are mostly just grifters.
- delfinom 6mo agoWrite an angry blog post about how big business is using their power to kill their _totally_ unique original idea that nobody could possibly copy in a hour?
- Kye 6mo agoClassic "is this a feature or a product?" problem. You're going to have a bad time if you spend all your effort on a feature and nothing to set it apart.
- CWwdcdk7h 6mo ago> We raised $6M in Seed Funding Well that part was impressive. It looks like they focused on receiving emails, that is probably even worse, as I expect OpenAI/Anthropic to add such ability directly to agents, if it really is useful.
- strbean 6mo ago> It looks like they focused on receiving emails That's wild. $6M for an MCP server for SMTP?
- nozzlegear 6mo ago> new startups having moats thinner than Durex are thinking Haha, great visual. Really illustrative of what these AI startups and bootstrapped indie developers are dealing with (and, if I had to guess, why most of them don't go anywhere).
- baal80spam 6mo agoUgh, who asked for this?
- VikingCoder 6mo ago$0.35 per 1,000 outbound emails. Unlimited inbound emails. How's that compare?
- ghoshbishakh 6mo agoPricing: $0.35 per 1,000 emails Here are the limits: "Your account may have daily sending limits based on Cloudflare's assessment of your account standing. " Source: https://developers.cloudflare.com/email-service/platform/pricing/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/email-service/platform/pri... https://developers.cloudflare.com/email-service/platform/limits/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/email-service/platform/lim...
- pier25 6mo agoPretty good pricing. Currently using ZeptoMail ($2.5 per 10,000 emails) but if this service by Cloudflare proves reliable once it reaches GA I'd be happy to switch.
- ghoshbishakh 6mo agoWhy not use SES?
- pier25 6mo agoI just avoid AWS as much as I can.
- vlod 6mo agoIt is a major pita dealing with the SES team. I originally wanted to send email from my web app (simply notification flow. i.e. you have a new request from user-123) and it is (IMHO) impossible to get past them. They won't tell you any reasons why. (Because they don't want devs gaming the system). Nothing I could do could convince them that I wasn't trying to do 'bad' stuff. Just gave up and decided not to use any AWS tech. Just used GMail api to send email.
- chrysoprace 6mo agoUnless I've misunderstood something, the Cloudflare price is like 3x of AWS SES. It probably won't matter for small scale products, but it definitely makes a difference at a large scale.
- daft_pink 6mo agoI’m really just curious how they guard against prompt injection. Otherwise this seems awesome.
- TimCTRL 6mo ago> Everyone already has an email address Things developers believe about email
- arkaoss 6mo agoThere is not much developers UNDERSTAND about email, let alone believe... There's soo much to read into this product.. and it boils down to JASS ( just another spam source) .
- AtNightWeCode 6mo agoOr the even worse category. People sharing email.
- ryangst_1 6mo ago$0.35 per 1,000 emails it's fair pricing. Looks better than fixed $20 for Resend.
- skc 6mo agoYep, and I'm both a Cloudflare and Resend customer. I like Resend, a lot, but this is probably something I can't pass up, especially if it does what it says on the tin
- bdangubic 6mo agoResend will change the pricing - guaranteed. Not sure how soon but I'd expect very soon.
- STRiDEX 6mo agoI guess if they're big enough they should be working on moving off of amazon SES for emails and warming up ip addresses? Otherwise they need to keep a markup on top of amazon. Edit: didn't realize people were paying resend $20. AWS already exists at a low price and people pick them anyway, i'm sure they're fine.
- pupppet 6mo agoI'm betting a non-small chunk of these are users AWS wouldn't let out of sandbox mode.
- bdangubic 6mo agoand you’d be 100% right!
- slig 6mo agoIt's very easy to get started with Resend, and they have a free tier that basically works for any bootstrapped project, and by the time you have to upgrade, you can pay $20/m.
- freefaler 6mo agoA classic "the tragedy of the commons" with the SMTP protocol. When the cost of spamming is near 0.00, all open platforms will be abused to the tilt. We have seen the email channel get less and less reliable with our own clients (password recovery, notifications and etc). This might evolve into a couple of oligopolies (Microsoft 365 Outlook, Google Gmail, may be some legacy email providers like Yahoo) and if you want delivery you'd need to pay them, because they'd be the verifiers that you're not a spammer. And these platforms will have a hell of time to fight the spammers that will create millions of email addresses and spam trough them.
- ajsnigrutin 6mo agoI'd be happy if we at least started punishing the large, well known and established companies for spamming us... ...you know the one, where you have email preferences, and you only have "new messages" and "commercial offers" in the settings, and you uncheck the "commercial offers" and think you're sae. Then you get a spam email from them... check the preferences again, and there's a "new product notification" preference, checked by default, and you uncheck that too. Bam! another spam! "personalized offers" option appeared, check by default. "limited time offers". "value deals", etc.
- Youden 6mo agoI don't think the protocol is necessarily the problem. For example we don't say the HTTP protocol is the problem when spammers abuse website comment forms or forums, we say it's the server on the other side. I think the answer is somewhat the same as where we've gone with many HTTP servers: proof of work. Just like Captcha and more recently Cloudflare turnstile required you complete a task before you'd be able to access as website, senders should be required to complete a task before you'll accept their email. It can even be a sliding scale: the higher you want the chances of the recipient seeing it to be, the more work you need to do. However this also break emails considered "legitimate" by businesses, like marketing newsletters and other nonsense, which is why it'll likely never happen.
- freefaler 6mo agoThe legacy compatibility of the protocol has brought all the hacks on top of it for identity verification like SPF, DMARC, DKIM ... Even with those, the amount of farmed accounts from a reputable platforms is still high, and it will go higher with the cheap AI targeting that will make the texts much more well crafted and spam filters much more aggressive. My other conjecture is that the big mail providers would have enough data to catch the spammers based on a number of signals.
- qJaskkT 6mo agoDid anyone ask the poor people who unknowingly send mail to someone who feeds it to an AI surveillance company? It would be interesting to send GDPR requests and have Cloudflare figure out all of the parties who got or use your mail.
- nope1000 6mo agoIt's funny. All the examples they show in the blogpost are just things that were already pretty easy without agents. Sending an email when the CI pipeline passes, when a support request is incoming, when an order is shipped. I think we haven't found a problem for this solution.
- written-beyond 6mo agoThe problem is how bullshit transactional emails are when you're outside of AWS. If you're not expecting to use 10,000 emails a month but would like the option to go over the free tier without committing to 10,000 more. Just let me pay per use FFS.
- jedberg 6mo agoThe reason AWS does that is because there is a lot of base level work to verify you as "not a spammer" and to keep verifying you. So this is their way of making sure you pay the base cost. They could price per use, but it would have to start with a base fee that is about the same at 10,000 emails.
- written-beyond 6mo agoThe base fee doesn't need to be monthly, they can take $50 dollars as a one time registration verification fee. That should be enough to cover their compute costs for the year, specially when you pool in that from multiple customers. Who is spamming with 100 monthly emails? How much compute do they need to verify you aren't spamming. They can bake all of that into the pay per use price, they choose not to and I'm glad cloudflare is offering this.
- jedberg 6mo agoMaintaining the reputation of an IP address is the issue here. If one bad actor sends just a few emails that get marked as spam, the entire IP gets marked as bad. That's basically what you're paying for. Also, the person who just wants to send a few 100 emails a month is actually far more likely to be a spammer. So it's also a way for them to eliminate those folks. And lastly, the support burden can be high. AWS has basically said they only want serious customers, let the other guys worry about the small senders.
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- btown 6mo agohttps://developers.cloudflare.com/email-service/reference/postmaster/#outbound-prefixes https://developers.cloudflare.com/email-service/reference/po... Cloudflare is very transparent about their prefixes and reverse DNS, which is generally a good thing for the ecosystem! But it makes it trivial for operators who want to block the entire service, and extremely bad for Cloudflare's deliverability. And while there are many open blacklists which I have no doubt Cloudflare monitors, there are many (including soft spam-classification signals) that are proprietary and difficult/impossible to monitor other than by watching rates of actual customer/prospect replies and engagement. Amazon SQS has similar dynamics, and its reputation is far from stellar. (If the Cloudflare team is reading this, and I'm missing an on-ramp to a company purchasing dedicated IPs with distinct PTR records, I do apologize! I'm not seeing documentation about this, though.)
- yalogin 6mo agoIsn’t email already scriptable? What does cf provide that is different? I clicked on it assuming they are launching their own email service.
- dawnerd 6mo agoIt really is showing how dumb this whole bubble is when you can launch the same service that’s been around for decades but slap ai and agent on it.
- Meekro 6mo agoI'm not sure why this announcement has generated so much irritation in the comments-- Cloudflare has been transitioning from "DDoS protection" to "AWS competitor" for many years now, and this is just their alternative to AWS SES. It's an email sender that you can access through an API, or directly through Workers. For those who haven't been keeping up over the years, Workers is their product for running code on Cloudflare's platform directly (an AWS Lambda competitor, more or less) and they've been trying to make it the centerpiece of an ecosystem where you deploy your code to their platform and get access to a variety of tools: databases, storage, streaming, AI, and now email sending. All of this is stuff that AWS has had for years, but some people like Cloudflare more (I certainly do). One thing that surprised me is the price-- Cloudflare's cloud offerings are usually much cheaper, and I've saved plenty of money by migrating from AWS S3 to Cloudflare's R2. This new offering is 3x the AWS price, though. Weird. Anyway, most small companies don't send enough email for it to matter. But getting back to the consensus in the comments here: I'm not sure why people think that they'll be worse about policing spam than AWS SES, Azure Email, etc.
- embedding-shape 6mo ago> But getting back to the consensus in the comments here: I'm not sure why people think that they'll be worse about policing spam than AWS SES, Azure Email, etc. Cloudflare is (in)famous for not acting against spammers, fraud, piracy and other less savory groups that are hosting their stuff at/behind Cloudflare, so reasonably, people who've been affected by that are now afraid the same thing will happen with email.
- ttul 6mo agoWhen it comes to email delivery, you can't ignore spam. It's the bane of existence of every email sending service and the number one business challenge in that segment. After all, orchestrating delivery over SMTP is not rocket science. But getting that email to not be rejected totally IS rocket science and it's simultaneously an art form known only to a handful of email nerds working at the core of the big email sending services...
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- TechSquidTV 6mo agoI feel like a lot of folks down here are focusing too much on the agent part. That's purely marketing. No one who worked on the service, I am sure, was building exclusively for agent usage. This is simply the framing device that all marketing needs to present these days.
- bakugo 6mo agoOf course it's just marketing, but that doesn't mean it's above criticism, especially when it's shoved so hard down our throats. "Please stop talking about the thing we can't stop talking about"
- hardsnow 6mo agoI seriously think this great! I’ve been saying that email is the right interface for agents for a while now. It is available anywhere, natively threaded, and works for asynchronous long-form communication. Comes with great clients as well. I’ve been developing last three months by emailing Claude, with email threads mapping to an isolated workspace and claude -p. Works super well, especially when trying to get some coding done between everything else. With right CLAUDE.md and a bit of workflow tooling this extends itself to building other kinds of agents as well. For example, I do my bookkeeping by emailing Claude my statements and receipts, which it then imports into a plain-text accounting system. And we’ve proven this in corporate environment as well, creating agent that can troubleshoot more complex issues by correlating diagnostic logs against product source code. Once the basic “email agent” infrastructure is there, creating new agents becomes super simple.
- shauntest12321 6mo agoAwesome, checkout https://ainative.email https://ainative.email
- johtso 6mo agoAnother email sending service without support for idempotency?
- esseph 6mo agoAFAIK there is no communication service or protocol on the internet designed with idempotency in mind. (That was worthwhile and adopted)
- johtso 6mo agoSure, but this is not a protocol, this is an API. APIs that allow actions that cost money, potentially annoy users / effect your reputation in the eyes of email recipients, I believe, should allow the caller to supply a unique key to enforce idempotency.
- esseph 6mo agoTrack state on your side.
- johtso 6mo agoIt’s impossible to know whether an action completed successfully if an error occurs between sending the request and persisting the result
- esseph 6mo agoYou also have no idea if it's been blocked or dropped before delivery unless you're using things like tracking pixels etc, right? And even then, that only works if they aren't being blocked (Proton Mail can do this, etc.) It just seems like this is trying to force something that was never remotely designed for it.
- mlhpdx 6mo agoI’ll have to take a look at this as a way to move off my homegrown serverless email on AWS. Doesn’t look like it has parity with being able to send email from many subsystems safely (with delay and veto)[1], but is pretty close on the receive side automation[2]. [1] https://github.com/mlhpdx/email-origin https://github.com/mlhpdx/email-origin [2] https://github.com/mlhpdx/email-delivery https://github.com/mlhpdx/email-delivery
- _pdp_ 6mo agoGood! However, ... Sending and receiving is in my mind the easy part. The hardest part is to make this work with actual AI agents. This is the same problem as with sub-agent communication because you need to implement all kinds of additional fictionality to ensure the agent is not just responding for no good reason, go into loops, etc. My $0.02 from experience.
- cdrnsf 6mo agoIf I get one email from your agent, I'm torching your entire domain.
- ttul 6mo agoHow might this affect https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/agentmail https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/agentmail?
- pupppet 6mo agoAfter ticking every documented box to get out of AWS SES sandbox mode and being told nope and we can't tell you why, I'm all for this.
- opengrass 6mo agoNo thanks I'll keep my Mailgun. After 2.5M it's half the SES bill.
- csomar 6mo agoThis is a very long post just to say they're now running an SMTP server. I've been sending and receiving emails from Workers for two years; though for sending, you still need an external SMTP server like SES or Postmark. Don't get me wrong, sending (and delivering) emails is genuinely hard. But we'll only know how good Cloudflare is at it after a couple years of real-world experience.
- cdrnsf 6mo agoSlop spam? Slam?
- freitzzz 6mo agoIf we're letting agents send e-mail, what's the point of reading e-mail? Surely I can have an agent to reply to e-mail that other agent has sent. Do we really want to create dead internet?
- edsimpson 6mo agoI wish they had developed the open source Inbox into a consumer hosted email service for users. It would have been nice to see more competition with Google and Microsoft.
- rc_kas 6mo agoYeah I had thought this was what they were building when I first heard they had an email project. I guess not.
- AtNightWeCode 6mo agoI never got email routing to work. I doubt this will work in the general case.
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- karimf 6mo agoOk I just tried the service since I want to migrate from Resend. Seems like you can only send email via the worker or REST API for now? Can I send via SMTP? I'm using Supabase and it needs the SMTP credentials. I can't find anything on the dashboard or on the docs, even though last year they said it supports SMTP [0] [0] https://blog.cloudflare.com/email-service/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/email-service/
- tracker1 6mo agoNot to oversimplify the issue... but you could probably run a small VPS and SMTP relay service that requires tls+auth and just relays all email from your domain through to API calls. You could probably get something operational in a couple hours with Claude Code. My first thought in reading this would be using this service and the default mail app's structure to back end typical email protocols so you can still use a regular email client to access/use the system as a gateway. That said, I still think Cloudflare is in a unique position to compete with gmail/m365 mail/calandar/contacts... possibly funding Thunderbird development to tighten the integration as a mail client. For that matter, I still think cloudflare is in a good position to create a new
- karimf 6mo agoOh yeah for sure. At that point, using SES is probably a better option compared to running a VPS just for SMTP. I posted that to let them know that SMTP support is a requirement for some developers.
- scrollaway 6mo agoYeah one of their devs (https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=thomgo https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=thomgo) said SMTP will be available, but I cannot find any info on this either. I'm glad to be switching from the horror that is Sendgrid, though. I migrated a few projects that have basic contact forms and it's been super easy so far.
- shynome 6mo agohttps://github.com/FRFlo/cf-smtp https://github.com/FRFlo/cf-smtp
- ksajadi 6mo agoI think this is going to be a really good service: the service can be used easily with Workers making it super easy to not only send transactional emails but use it for forms embedded in Pages. I am very much looking forward to using this. However, I still think AWS SES is the gold standard of deliverability because of their constant monitoring of your reputation (bounces etc). I always combine it with SendOps (https://sendops.dev/ https://sendops.dev/) for easy setup and deep analytics to avoid those issues.
- dgb23 6mo agoIt's certainly interesting that they provide an email service now. In their documentation/blog recommendations they switched their recommended approach twice or three times already. If they establish a solid email solution I will likely use that for some of the projects I'm hosting there.
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- Meekro 6mo agoYou mentioned a 12-agent setup with IMAP that you might consider migrating into this platform. Could you tell me more about the overall goal of the project? I'm curious because this whole "email+agent" thing that the article talks about strikes me as kind of strange, and I'm curious what the non-spam use cases are.
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- pradn 6mo agoHow much do existing services trust new email service providers? It would seem to be an uphill battle for Cloudflare to start a new service. It's easy to automate from the start, meaning it's easier to send spam. I suppose reputation is not simply based on the domain the email comes from?
- efalcao 6mo agoHi, I work on this team at Cloudflare. We've been sending email for years via our free email routing product and email sending is built on top of the same infrastructure, code and knowledge.
- tracker1 6mo agoI hope you've (your org) been able to curate something resembling higher level contacts with Microsoft. They seem to be the single largest email provider that consistently has deliverability issues.
- aaronbrethorst 6mo agoI am so excited for this. I’ve used Amazon SES begrudgingly for years and have wanted a better UI and easier routing level automation.
- cbg0 6mo agoHow far off are we from Cloudflare releasing a Gmail competitor?
- potato-peeler 6mo agoI can use this to set up my own custom mail service, like an alternative to gmail? Or at the very least, my own personal mail provider?
- tracker1 6mo agoYou'd need to write your own mail protocol host/gateway on top of this service... Pop/smtp/imap, etc. Also, search is a bigger/harder issue to solve, assuming you want to support clients searching for emails without a full scan of their mailbox for matches.
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- woodylondon 6mo agoI would pay for Cloudflare Workers Paid ($5) in a heartbeat and currently use the free version of cloudflare for all my DNS / Hosting etc. Where it does not meet my needs i have Dokpoly + Digital Ocean. I would use CloudFlare Containers. I currently pay for resend.com for all my email API needs. The problem is that once you're on the paid plan, you're exposed to unlimited risk if your worker goes crazy due to a stupid code bug or if you're hacked. As a solo dev, it's a risk I simply cannot take; I could wake to a bankruptcy bill from Cloudflare. Even as a company, an employee could sign you up and your accounts team would have no idea of the risk. I am using Supabase at the moment, and see they have a hard cap now. and so does Vercel after they had some nightmare stories of large bills in the past. I am not sure why / what CloudFlare think about this - or simply dont care.
- NicoJuicy 6mo agoThey are working on it Source : post on x from an employee Side note: the bills from cloudflare are much lower than the ones from AWS/Vercel when there's a mistake. The most I saw passing by was 150€, with Vercel and AWS > 10 k.
- laurisbernhart 6mo ago100% agree. Spending limits for Workers would be a game changer. There are many services I wanted to use Workers for but ended up with some self hosted service simply because I can't properly limit my monetary risk here.
- weird-eye-issue 6mo agoHave you done the math on this because it's actually very, very difficult to blow up your Cloudflare bill compared to something like Vercel or Firebase. For example 1 million requests to a Worker is only $0.30 and there's no bandwidth charge. Similar for R2, Pages, etc. Also I believe their rate limiting rules have been completely free for one or two years now.
- gls2ro 6mo agoI think it is possible. I was reading the pricing page for workers and here is what it says there: > To prevent accidental runaway bills or denial-of-wallet attacks, configure the maximum amount of CPU time that can be used per invocation by defining limits in your Worker's Wrangler file, or via the Cloudflare dashboard (Workers & Pages > Select your Worker > Settings > CPU Limits). Link: end of example 4 section: https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/platform/pricing/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/workers/platform/pricing/
- bob1029 6mo agoI'm having a hard time figuring out if I could use this as a replacement for something like AWS WorkMail or E365. The "Agentic" inbox looks really nice, but is this intended for humans to use? I am really confused due to the marketing hype.
- AnonC 6mo ago> Everyone already has an email address, which means everyone can already interact with your application or agent. And your agent can interact with anyone. That’s a huge assumption unless you exclude several countries where people have a phone number but not really an email address (or even if they do, they may not know what an email address is) and exclude many very old (say, 70+) people who wouldn’t know what email is or what their email address is. Moving on, I assumed the title meant the launch of a new consumer email service or platform. Reading the announcement, it’s not. That was disappointing to me.
- tracker1 6mo agoIt is a new customer email service/platform... analogous to AWS SES for being able to send emails. They also have a baseline web email application. That said, would be nice if CF offered an analog to gmail/m365 email, contacts and calendars as a service to go along side the application access. As it is, I'd probably use a subdomain for service based emails, separate from user emails if using this service.
- balupton 6mo agoNo mention in the announcement that it is restricted to the paid plans. Also no mentioned of it in the paid plan comparison. From the dashboard link: > Enable Email Sending Email Sending is currently only available with the Workers Paid plan. Upgrade your plan to start sending emails.
- sltr 6mo ago> Email is the most accessible interface in the world Email is one of the most gatekept interfaces in the world.
- TimLeland 6mo agoHow easy is it to switch from other email providers?
- schainks 6mo agoSendgrid is such an enshittified product, I am grateful this now exists and integrates directly with tools I have on cloudflare already.
- fny 6mo agoI've been very happy with agentmail.to for a while with great success. You get 3K free emails per month with 3 inboxes. Paid tier starts at $0.20 per 1000 emails. Disclaimer: I don't work for agentmail.
- gck1 6mo agoNot all email automation is spam and if you want your emails to not end up in spam folder, you pretty much have to go with Google Workspace and pay for essentially entire business suite when you just want to send emails. I needed something like this for my project and it's pretty much Google Workspace or nothing. Cloudflare just filled a huge gap.
- creatonez 6mo agoAI agents should be nowhere near email, full stop. Who comes up with this shit? Why would Cloudflare ruin their email deliverability by allowing this?
- lloydatkinson 6mo agoSounds like this is only for AI or something. Does it support normal usage or only """agents"""?
- paultopia 6mo agoHah, what I wish Cloudflare would supply in the email space is a “prove you’re a human” except for access to my inbox
- 8organicbits 6mo agoPushing agent workflows over email has some risks not present for HTTP. Transit security is still a problem for email as we're stuck in the opportunistic encryption stage. If you decide to use email-based agents, look into MTA-STS as a way to prevent downgrade attacks. It looks like Cloudflare supports this, but it isn't enabled by default or called out in the on-boarding process. https://developers.cloudflare.com/email-routing/setup/mta-sts/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/email-routing/setup/mta-st...
- agentifysh 6mo agoso I have to ask, what is the pricing? This solves a major annoyance of having to use Resend. I just want to be able to send some confirmation emails but I have to pay extra for each domain I add. I am ready to migrate to Cloudflare Email Service if the pricing is competitive. It's next to impossible to get approved on Amazon SES now vs 10 years ago. I don't know why its so ridiculous difficult to use it for transactional verificaiton emails. I see AWS screwing up and Cloudflare replacing it.
- slig 6mo agoSee https://developers.cloudflare.com/email-service/platform/pricing/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/email-service/platform/pri...
- _adamnt 6mo agoShameless plug: Email is the most accessible interface in the world, that's why I built https://botwerk.com https://botwerk.com and https://aleik.com https://aleik.com
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- diimdeep 6mo agoCancer spreads.
- SergeAx 6mo agoI wonder if they deliberately withheld SMTP sending to get better vendor lock. However, without SMTP support, the email sending service is mostly unusable.