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I can remember the 16-page _Newsweek_ ad quite vividly --- the Mac was something special, and even its spiritual successor, the NeXT Cube did not reach the leve

I can remember the 16-page _Newsweek_ ad quite vividly --- the Mac was something special, and even its spiritual successor, the NeXT Cube did not reach the level of artistic flair which the Mac hit as a quick perusal of: https://www.folklore.org https://www.folklore.org would argue. Moreover, it made the cut at at least one museum: https://www.moma.org/collection/works/3742?artist_id=10295 https://www.moma.org/collection/works/3742?artist_id=10295 (and there are 24 other items by Apple in that collection) and yes, they have a Picasso as well: https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/5530 https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/5530

bigyabai 6mo ago
Anything can make the cut at MOMA. The gigantic disaster of OLPC is enshrined as "art" there too: https://www.moma.org/collection/works/155757 https://www.moma.org/collection/works/155757
- WillAdams 6mo ago
  It was an interesting design, well-suited to the target audience and presents quite well in person (a co-worker bought two, one donated, the other for his personal use when hiking).
  - bigyabai 6mo ago
    By those qualifications we could very well nominate a Franklin machine for exhibit.
    - WillAdams 6mo ago
      The OLPC had innovative features developed by the designers --- what innovative features which were not copied did the Franklin have? To turn things back to where we started, can you find one article which criticizes MOMA for including an Apple Macintosh along with its Picasso?
      - bigyabai 6mo ago
        For what it's worth, I consider none of the aforementioned three devices to contain any artistic value whatsoever. The Apple II is an excellent computer, but entirely unjustifiable as an art exhibit. I stand by my original statement that anything can make it's way into MOMA regardless of whether or not it's art.
        WillAdams 6mo ago
        Your original statement was: >I mean, if you put a Mac or MacOS in a museum next to Picasso, that would make many people cry. Yet, MOMA has both a Mac and a Picasso, and you have not provided evidence of anyone feeling negatively about it other than yourself.
- razorbeamz 6mo ago
  If you think that a Mac or an OLPC is not art, you have a very narrow definition of art.
  - amelius 6mo ago
    Then the Franklin machine is also art.
    - razorbeamz 6mo ago
      It is.

bigyabai 6mo ago

Anything can make the cut at MOMA. The gigantic disaster of OLPC is enshrined as "art" there too: https://www.moma.org/collection/works/155757 https://www.moma.org/collection/works/155757

WillAdams 6mo ago
It was an interesting design, well-suited to the target audience and presents quite well in person (a co-worker bought two, one donated, the other for his personal use when hiking).
- bigyabai 6mo ago
  By those qualifications we could very well nominate a Franklin machine for exhibit.
  - WillAdams 6mo ago
    The OLPC had innovative features developed by the designers --- what innovative features which were not copied did the Franklin have? To turn things back to where we started, can you find one article which criticizes MOMA for including an Apple Macintosh along with its Picasso?
    - bigyabai 6mo ago
      For what it's worth, I consider none of the aforementioned three devices to contain any artistic value whatsoever. The Apple II is an excellent computer, but entirely unjustifiable as an art exhibit. I stand by my original statement that anything can make it's way into MOMA regardless of whether or not it's art.
      - WillAdams 6mo ago
        Your original statement was: >I mean, if you put a Mac or MacOS in a museum next to Picasso, that would make many people cry. Yet, MOMA has both a Mac and a Picasso, and you have not provided evidence of anyone feeling negatively about it other than yourself.
razorbeamz 6mo ago
If you think that a Mac or an OLPC is not art, you have a very narrow definition of art.
- amelius 6mo ago
  Then the Franklin machine is also art.
  - razorbeamz 6mo ago
    It is.