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> The Netherlands: 86%, dominated by solar & wind The Dutch bureau of statistics reports 50%, of which a plurality (one third) is biomass. The Netherlands is a

> The Netherlands: 86%, dominated by solar & wind The Dutch bureau of statistics reports 50%, of which a plurality (one third) is biomass. The Netherlands is also famously gas-dependent. Natural gas isn’t converted to electricity for heating and many industrial applications. Can’t quickly find stats on production here, but renewables are only 17% of total energy usage. Renewables without biomass are ~12% of total energy usage.

IshKebab 6mo ago
This is just goalpost moving. Only a couple of decades ago we were at a solid 0% everywhere.
- bopjesvla 6mo ago
  > The Netherlands: 86%, dominated by solar & wind The Netherlands: 50%, of which one third is biomass. As someone living in the Netherlands, I would love to live in energy utopia, but stats reported by people who can’t read Dutch government reports are usually wrong.
  - NoLinkToMe 6mo ago
    Nah about 5% of electricity is from biomass, not 33%. The 33% figure is regarding gross energy production, not electricity. Otherwise agreed.
- 0123456789ABCDE 6mo ago
  hydro electric dams and wind turbines exist since, at least, the 1880s. [^1][^2] and if wasn't for ronald reagan, the united states might have achieved 20% solar power energy production before the year 2000. [^3] these are not new (two decade) technologies. [^1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroelectricity#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroelectricity#History [^2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power#History [^3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power#Development_and_deployment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power#Development_and_de...
teamonkey 6mo ago
https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/zone/NL/12mo/monthly https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/zone/NL/12mo/monthly
- bopjesvla 6mo ago
  That’s just a random website. Dutch bureau of statistics: https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/longread/rapportages/2025/hernieuwbare-energie-in-nederland-2024?onepage=true https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/longread/rapportages/2025/hernieuwb...
  - NoLinkToMe 6mo ago
    It's not just 'a random website' and it aligns with CBS numbers.
  - erooke 6mo ago
    It seems to disagree with Dutch statistics because the linked view is for April 2026. While the article cited is talking about all of 2024. If you change the view to look at the year 2024 [1] it claims 53% carbon free with 2.5% of that coming from nuclear. This seems to line up with the cited statistics of 50% of consumed electricity produced by wind, hydropower, solar, and biomass in 2024. [1] https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/zone/NL/5y/yearly?signal=carbon-free-energy https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/zone/NL/5y/yearly?signal...
- thrdbndndn 6mo ago
  I failed to find the "86%" figure. The total energy mix shows "66% renewable".

IshKebab 6mo ago

This is just goalpost moving. Only a couple of decades ago we were at a solid 0% everywhere.

bopjesvla 6mo ago
> The Netherlands: 86%, dominated by solar & wind The Netherlands: 50%, of which one third is biomass. As someone living in the Netherlands, I would love to live in energy utopia, but stats reported by people who can’t read Dutch government reports are usually wrong.
- NoLinkToMe 6mo ago
  Nah about 5% of electricity is from biomass, not 33%. The 33% figure is regarding gross energy production, not electricity. Otherwise agreed.
0123456789ABCDE 6mo ago
hydro electric dams and wind turbines exist since, at least, the 1880s. [^1][^2] and if wasn't for ronald reagan, the united states might have achieved 20% solar power energy production before the year 2000. [^3] these are not new (two decade) technologies. [^1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroelectricity#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroelectricity#History [^2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power#History [^3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power#Development_and_deployment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power#Development_and_de...

teamonkey 6mo ago

https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/zone/NL/12mo/monthly https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/zone/NL/12mo/monthly

bopjesvla 6mo ago
That’s just a random website. Dutch bureau of statistics: https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/longread/rapportages/2025/hernieuwbare-energie-in-nederland-2024?onepage=true https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/longread/rapportages/2025/hernieuwb...
- NoLinkToMe 6mo ago
  It's not just 'a random website' and it aligns with CBS numbers.
- erooke 6mo ago
  It seems to disagree with Dutch statistics because the linked view is for April 2026. While the article cited is talking about all of 2024. If you change the view to look at the year 2024 [1] it claims 53% carbon free with 2.5% of that coming from nuclear. This seems to line up with the cited statistics of 50% of consumed electricity produced by wind, hydropower, solar, and biomass in 2024. [1] https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/zone/NL/5y/yearly?signal=carbon-free-energy https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/zone/NL/5y/yearly?signal...
thrdbndndn 6mo ago
I failed to find the "86%" figure. The total energy mix shows "66% renewable".