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From my perspective there are some people that have never built real processes in their life that enjoy having some processes now. But agent processes are less
by jwpapi 6mo ago
From my perspective there are some people that have never built real processes in their life that enjoy having some processes now. But agent processes are less reliable slower and less maintenable then a process that is well-defined and architectured and uses llm’s only where no other solution is sufficient. Classification, drafting, summarizing.
I’ve had a Whatsapp assistant since 2023, jailbraked as easy assistant. Only thing I kept using is transcription.
https://github.com/askrella/whatsapp-chatgpt https://github.com/askrella/whatsapp-chatgpt was released 3 years ago and many have extended it for more capabilities and arguably its more performant than Openclaw as it can run in all your chat windows. But there’s still no use case.
It’s really classification and drafting.
- KhayaliY 6mo agoFully agree with your comment regarding real processes. Being a Six Sigma Black Belt, studying processes and reducing the errors is critical. The Openclaw processes at the moment scare me.
- whattheheckheck 6mo agoMake a skill.md called six sigma black belt audit refactor and publish it
- KhayaliY 6mo agoThat's actually a great idea!!
- vasco 6mo agoI'm only at Four Alpha Brown Belt still but once I pass my test I think I'll also understand why this is critical. I can't wait to get scared.
- chris_money202 6mo agoThis. So many junior engineers showing me AI flows that could just be a script with a few parameter inputs
- mickeyp 6mo agoYou say that with the wisdom of experience. But there's still value in people exploring new spaces they find interesting, even if they do not meet your personal definition of pareto-optimal.
- chris_money202 6mo agoExploring with AI doesn’t lead to the same level of learning. They are doing the equivalent of paying to skip the level up of their character and going to the final boss with level 1 armor
- quietsegfault 6mo agoI look at it more like speedrunning a level. You're skipping the parts of the level that take up the most time, some times using hacks. Is it universally as much fun as playing the game? No, just like using AI to prototype might get you to the same place, but without the experience of discovery and blockers along the way.
- alfiedotwtf 6mo agoSame thing could be said with SKILL.md yet they are highly useful... Yes you can automate via scripting, but interacting with a process using natural language because every instance could be different and not solid enough to write a spec for, is really handy. tl;dr: there's a place for "be liberal in what you receive and conservative in what you send", but only now have LLMs provided us with a viable way to make room for "be loosey goosey with your transput"
- chris_money202 6mo agoI understand but there still is usually 80-95% of the skill flow that you can script out that is repeated. Script it out and simplify your skill, make it more stable, and provide more opportunity to scale it up or down i.e use stronger or weaker models if need be. We should be scripting and forming process first then seeing where we can put AI after that.
- lokar 6mo agoVibe process automation