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Nothing recent made me feel quite as old and out of the loop more as the slowness with which I realized that this is about x.com (Twitter), not x.org (the windo

by codeflo 6mo ago

Nothing recent made me feel quite as old and out of the loop more as the slowness with which I realized that this is about x.com (Twitter), not x.org (the windowing system).

blurbleblurble 6mo ago
You're aging well
kushalpandya 6mo ago
That too would very likely be seen as deeply political.
- mindslight 6mo ago
  After reading about Wayland for 10 (?) years and thinking it was some huge deal, I finally took the leap as I was redoing my window manager anyway and it was quite easy (at least on NixOS). Heck virt-viewer (one of my main apps) is still running under Xwayland because the performance seems better.
  - Gare 6mo ago
    10 years ago Wayland was in much worse state. It started being good in the last few years, though some features are still lacking.
    - mindslight 6mo ago
      Oh for sure. The point is the way I hear it talked about even today is as if it's going to be really great at some point in the future, but involves a lot of off-the-beaten-path tinkering if you want to use it right now. But there really wasn't much tinkering! Honestly with "AI" helping a lot of the boring configuration tedium, I feel like I might finally reach the stage where I like my desktop environment config.
  - kmeisthax 6mo ago
    The only reason why I'm not running Wayland on my Framework laptop is that there's some really weird bug where it hardlocks the system, and after I force-reboot it, the audio chip doesn't come back up unless I drain or unplug the battery. X11 doesn't have this issue. Of course, this was also several years ago, and it's possible the bug has been fixed. Maybe I should try Wayland again.
noosphr 6mo ago
Probably more reasonable. I'm not sure why xorg exists if their sole purpose is to kill x. As per the many posts by their developers.
- raverbashing 6mo ago
  It would be ironic if Xorg launched a twitter competitor using a custom update protocol (an X extension) over the network and TCL
  - mghackerlady 6mo ago
    knowing how xorg currently operates (it doesn't, it has a successor) it'd be a wayland protocol negotiated over dbus and mainly opposed by the GNOME people
markkitti 6mo ago
I had the exact same experience.
hasley 6mo ago
I was thinking of X11 as well, but did not feel old - until I read your text. ;)
a_paddy 6mo ago
My favourite microblogging platform is way.land
jerlam 6mo ago
Whenever I see X used, I wonder if the author will return to replace the variable with the actual name.
beepbooptheory 6mo ago
I get really really tired at the back and forth with Wayland and all that, but I would put up with reading rants about windowing systems everyday if it meant I never had to think about this X again.
testfoobar 6mo ago
I remember being dazzled by Xeyes.
cobbaut 6mo ago
My first thought was "so they go commandline now?". Because X for me is still "the graphical interface".
ks2048 6mo ago
X11? What is that, one of Musk's children?

by codeflo 6mo ago

Nothing recent made me feel quite as old and out of the loop more as the slowness with which I realized that this is about x.com (Twitter), not x.org (the windowing system).

blurbleblurble 6mo ago

You're aging well

kushalpandya 6mo ago

That too would very likely be seen as deeply political.

mindslight 6mo ago
After reading about Wayland for 10 (?) years and thinking it was some huge deal, I finally took the leap as I was redoing my window manager anyway and it was quite easy (at least on NixOS). Heck virt-viewer (one of my main apps) is still running under Xwayland because the performance seems better.
- Gare 6mo ago
  10 years ago Wayland was in much worse state. It started being good in the last few years, though some features are still lacking.
  - mindslight 6mo ago
    Oh for sure. The point is the way I hear it talked about even today is as if it's going to be really great at some point in the future, but involves a lot of off-the-beaten-path tinkering if you want to use it right now. But there really wasn't much tinkering! Honestly with "AI" helping a lot of the boring configuration tedium, I feel like I might finally reach the stage where I like my desktop environment config.
- kmeisthax 6mo ago
  The only reason why I'm not running Wayland on my Framework laptop is that there's some really weird bug where it hardlocks the system, and after I force-reboot it, the audio chip doesn't come back up unless I drain or unplug the battery. X11 doesn't have this issue. Of course, this was also several years ago, and it's possible the bug has been fixed. Maybe I should try Wayland again.

noosphr 6mo ago

Probably more reasonable. I'm not sure why xorg exists if their sole purpose is to kill x. As per the many posts by their developers.

raverbashing 6mo ago
It would be ironic if Xorg launched a twitter competitor using a custom update protocol (an X extension) over the network and TCL
- mghackerlady 6mo ago
  knowing how xorg currently operates (it doesn't, it has a successor) it'd be a wayland protocol negotiated over dbus and mainly opposed by the GNOME people

markkitti 6mo ago

I had the exact same experience.

hasley 6mo ago

I was thinking of X11 as well, but did not feel old - until I read your text. ;)

a_paddy 6mo ago

My favourite microblogging platform is way.land

jerlam 6mo ago

Whenever I see X used, I wonder if the author will return to replace the variable with the actual name.

beepbooptheory 6mo ago

I get really really tired at the back and forth with Wayland and all that, but I would put up with reading rants about windowing systems everyday if it meant I never had to think about this X again.

testfoobar 6mo ago

I remember being dazzled by Xeyes.

cobbaut 6mo ago

My first thought was "so they go commandline now?". Because X for me is still "the graphical interface".

ks2048 6mo ago

X11? What is that, one of Musk's children?