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I read most of the post, went to the linked project and still don't have an idea what this is about.

by inatreecrown2 6mo ago

LexSiga 6mo ago
Indeed. Also what a very annoying website.
- duskdozer 6mo ago
  Looks like LLM-generated to me
- jmaw 6mo ago
  This could be one of my least favorite website styles ever. Too content dense is overwhelming, but this went WAY too far in the other direction. If I can't tell what your company is/does without clicking/interacting with the site, what are you even doing? My other least favorite style is where stuff flies in from the side as you scroll down.
spicyusername 6mo ago
I think it has something to do with a core library that is or was used in one of the other AI-related tools that got some buzz recently. I'm not sure if this library or if the AI tool itself really matter all that much, but a lot of people seem to think that they do, or will anyways, which is probably why this post has no context. Because the author assumes that both the library and the tool are well known, but I think they're only well known by those in the AI world. You know how it is. You only know what you know, and it's hard to remember what it was like when you didn't know. When you're around people who talk about the same things all the time, it's easy to just assume that's what's everyone's talking about. There are so many of these little tools coming and going these days it's hard to keep track. Some of them might end up mattering, but most of them probably won't.
stavros 6mo ago
Mario Zechner wrote Pi, an agent framework, and wrote Pi (yes the names are confusing), a coding harness (like Claude Code) on top of it. OpenClaw uses Pi the framework, so now Mario Zechner is joining Armin Ronacher's company.
colinmarc 6mo ago
Pi is a coding agent harness, like Claude Code, but significantly better and more elegant. Here is a good post describing it: https://lucumr.pocoo.org/2026/1/31/pi/ https://lucumr.pocoo.org/2026/1/31/pi/ I switched a few months ago and have not looked back. Unfortunately Anthropic blocked access from Claude Subscription users today, but that's a different story.
- Jgrubb 6mo ago
  I switched about a month ago, looked back once for about 10 minutes and decided I'm officially done w CC. I didn't realize what a dull knife CC is until I tried a really sharp one, and that's Pi.
  - meowface 6mo ago
    Can you elaborate? I want a maximalist setup. I like that CC and Codex are maximalist. If I install Pi, I am going to end up using oh-my-pi and installing a trillion plugins to get a Claude Code-like experience (or better/more feature-heavy). Is there any point in me even trying Pi, or should I just stick with Claude Code?
    - tasuki 6mo ago
      > I want a maximalist setup. > Is there any point in me even trying Pi, or should I just stick with Claude Code? I'd say stick with Claude Code. I'm a minimalist and hate everything about Claude Code!
    - Jgrubb 6mo ago
      Sorry I'm late but stick with CC. I introduced a coworker to Pi and spent most of the morning feeling like I should apologize for it not doing this or that out of the box.
      - meowface 6mo ago
        Makes sense
muragekibicho 6mo ago
Taken verbatim "Maybe you've heard about the little app called OpenClaw. OpenClaw is powered by pi. That made me collateral of Peter's success. Especially after Armin thought it's a good idea to tell the whole world about the relationship between OpenClaw and pi on his blog."
stefan_ 6mo ago
There are some people that are "way too deep" into what they think is the "AI ecosystem". The reality is that no such thing exists and most people opening Claude daily have never heard of their harness, tool, stack or whatever. It has about half the relevancy of "MCP", which is such a similar concept where hanger ons try to catch a steam train.
- tasuki 6mo ago
  Wow, I couldn't disagree more! Claude Code is a steaming pile of vibe-coded bloat. Pi has been elegantly designed with a minimalist mindset. > It has about half the relevancy of "MCP", which is such a similar concept where hanger ons try to catch a steam train. I'm not even sure what you're saying here. Are you saying MCP and Pi are similar concepts? Or that both are hanger-ons? I believe the steam train of Claude Code is heading for a wall and Pi has no intention to catch it.
  - JeremyNT 6mo ago
    > Claude Code is a steaming pile of vibe-coded bloat. Not disagreeing but I'm curious how much it really matters. I use OpenCode which is similarly a steaming pile of vibe-coded bloat and get pretty good results! I'm open to switching to pi, which I've read about occasionally on HN, but I'm struggling to see where it might have practical benefits versus OpenCode. The idea that pi is now under corporate governance with a potentially sustainable business model does intrigue me, but there's risk in adopting "open core" software too due to the potential rug pull and incentives to gate important features behind more restrictive licenses.
  - stefan_ 6mo ago
    I think they are similar to Cursor. They are fads. You need to make the model, not smother it with your ingenuity in wrapping it.
    - tasuki 6mo ago
      One of the selling points of Pi is that it doesn't "smother the model with ingenuity": it's a minimal harness with a focus on transparency, includes a minimal system prompt, and does not add needless tokens to what you are sending to the model. What agent do you use then? To me it seems most are terrible, incl Claude Code, OpenCode, and the other usual ones. I never felt an urge to use one. At best I used one very reluctantly as a magical black box.
dude250711 6mo ago
Slop.

I read most of the post, went to the linked project and still don't have an idea what this is about.

LexSiga 6mo ago

Indeed. Also what a very annoying website.

duskdozer 6mo ago
Looks like LLM-generated to me
jmaw 6mo ago
This could be one of my least favorite website styles ever. Too content dense is overwhelming, but this went WAY too far in the other direction. If I can't tell what your company is/does without clicking/interacting with the site, what are you even doing? My other least favorite style is where stuff flies in from the side as you scroll down.

spicyusername 6mo ago

I think it has something to do with a core library that is or was used in one of the other AI-related tools that got some buzz recently. I'm not sure if this library or if the AI tool itself really matter all that much, but a lot of people seem to think that they do, or will anyways, which is probably why this post has no context. Because the author assumes that both the library and the tool are well known, but I think they're only well known by those in the AI world. You know how it is. You only know what you know, and it's hard to remember what it was like when you didn't know. When you're around people who talk about the same things all the time, it's easy to just assume that's what's everyone's talking about. There are so many of these little tools coming and going these days it's hard to keep track. Some of them might end up mattering, but most of them probably won't.

stavros 6mo ago

Mario Zechner wrote Pi, an agent framework, and wrote Pi (yes the names are confusing), a coding harness (like Claude Code) on top of it. OpenClaw uses Pi the framework, so now Mario Zechner is joining Armin Ronacher's company.

colinmarc 6mo ago

Pi is a coding agent harness, like Claude Code, but significantly better and more elegant. Here is a good post describing it: https://lucumr.pocoo.org/2026/1/31/pi/ https://lucumr.pocoo.org/2026/1/31/pi/ I switched a few months ago and have not looked back. Unfortunately Anthropic blocked access from Claude Subscription users today, but that's a different story.

Jgrubb 6mo ago
I switched about a month ago, looked back once for about 10 minutes and decided I'm officially done w CC. I didn't realize what a dull knife CC is until I tried a really sharp one, and that's Pi.
- meowface 6mo ago
  Can you elaborate? I want a maximalist setup. I like that CC and Codex are maximalist. If I install Pi, I am going to end up using oh-my-pi and installing a trillion plugins to get a Claude Code-like experience (or better/more feature-heavy). Is there any point in me even trying Pi, or should I just stick with Claude Code?
  - tasuki 6mo ago
    > I want a maximalist setup. > Is there any point in me even trying Pi, or should I just stick with Claude Code? I'd say stick with Claude Code. I'm a minimalist and hate everything about Claude Code!
  - Jgrubb 6mo ago
    Sorry I'm late but stick with CC. I introduced a coworker to Pi and spent most of the morning feeling like I should apologize for it not doing this or that out of the box.
    - meowface 6mo ago
      Makes sense

muragekibicho 6mo ago

Taken verbatim "Maybe you've heard about the little app called OpenClaw. OpenClaw is powered by pi. That made me collateral of Peter's success. Especially after Armin thought it's a good idea to tell the whole world about the relationship between OpenClaw and pi on his blog."

stefan_ 6mo ago

There are some people that are "way too deep" into what they think is the "AI ecosystem". The reality is that no such thing exists and most people opening Claude daily have never heard of their harness, tool, stack or whatever. It has about half the relevancy of "MCP", which is such a similar concept where hanger ons try to catch a steam train.

tasuki 6mo ago
Wow, I couldn't disagree more! Claude Code is a steaming pile of vibe-coded bloat. Pi has been elegantly designed with a minimalist mindset. > It has about half the relevancy of "MCP", which is such a similar concept where hanger ons try to catch a steam train. I'm not even sure what you're saying here. Are you saying MCP and Pi are similar concepts? Or that both are hanger-ons? I believe the steam train of Claude Code is heading for a wall and Pi has no intention to catch it.
- JeremyNT 6mo ago
  > Claude Code is a steaming pile of vibe-coded bloat. Not disagreeing but I'm curious how much it really matters. I use OpenCode which is similarly a steaming pile of vibe-coded bloat and get pretty good results! I'm open to switching to pi, which I've read about occasionally on HN, but I'm struggling to see where it might have practical benefits versus OpenCode. The idea that pi is now under corporate governance with a potentially sustainable business model does intrigue me, but there's risk in adopting "open core" software too due to the potential rug pull and incentives to gate important features behind more restrictive licenses.
- stefan_ 6mo ago
  I think they are similar to Cursor. They are fads. You need to make the model, not smother it with your ingenuity in wrapping it.
  - tasuki 6mo ago
    One of the selling points of Pi is that it doesn't "smother the model with ingenuity": it's a minimal harness with a focus on transparency, includes a minimal system prompt, and does not add needless tokens to what you are sending to the model. What agent do you use then? To me it seems most are terrible, incl Claude Code, OpenCode, and the other usual ones. I never felt an urge to use one. At best I used one very reluctantly as a magical black box.

dude250711 6mo ago

Slop.