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I can go with the thesis that individuals need community control (boards, regulations, laws) in order to be accountable but is there some specific evidence that

by AdamN 6mo ago

I can go with the thesis that individuals need community control (boards, regulations, laws) in order to be accountable but is there some specific evidence that Amodei is the same? It seems like a "both sides" argument.

throwaway132448 6mo ago
I don’t need to convince you, we’ve been through enough cults of personality, time will tell. But I’ve been right enough times to back myself. Maybe it’s because I grew up around a lot of people like them? They can’t hide that they would say whatever they think you want to hear. Actually it’s funny: Their lack of empathy/emotional intelligence would also make them susceptible to thinking that talking to an LLM is like talking to a person, so maybe they really did think AGI was around the corner!
- ahepp 6mo ago
  Behold! Plato's man
  - throwaway132448 6mo ago
    I don’t know what this means.
- a515throw 6mo ago
  This comment rings a bell quite a bit. It’s easy enough to see these kinds of people. I just was fired earlier this year for made up performance reasons after multiple years at Apple due to a guy like this. These soulless people exist out there and they don’t care that your dog just passed away or your close family member gets cancer. They just move forward with their agenda and are experts at telling you what they think you want to hear. 200% Sam seems like a fun guy to be around. /s
aeternum 6mo ago
Community control typically doesn't work to constrain great men, a group has more weak points than an individual (look for example how easily Sam dismantled the OpenAI board decision by applying the right pressure). The greatest and often only check on power has always been competition or opposition by other great men.
- a456463 6mo ago
  Not great men. People with "perceived" high networth. Banks will fall over backwards to loan them money. See Chase and Musk. Let's not associate perceived networth with "great"

by AdamN 6mo ago

throwaway132448 6mo ago

I don’t need to convince you, we’ve been through enough cults of personality, time will tell. But I’ve been right enough times to back myself. Maybe it’s because I grew up around a lot of people like them? They can’t hide that they would say whatever they think you want to hear. Actually it’s funny: Their lack of empathy/emotional intelligence would also make them susceptible to thinking that talking to an LLM is like talking to a person, so maybe they really did think AGI was around the corner!

ahepp 6mo ago
Behold! Plato's man
- throwaway132448 6mo ago
  I don’t know what this means.
a515throw 6mo ago
This comment rings a bell quite a bit. It’s easy enough to see these kinds of people. I just was fired earlier this year for made up performance reasons after multiple years at Apple due to a guy like this. These soulless people exist out there and they don’t care that your dog just passed away or your close family member gets cancer. They just move forward with their agenda and are experts at telling you what they think you want to hear. 200% Sam seems like a fun guy to be around. /s

aeternum 6mo ago

Community control typically doesn't work to constrain great men, a group has more weak points than an individual (look for example how easily Sam dismantled the OpenAI board decision by applying the right pressure). The greatest and often only check on power has always been competition or opposition by other great men.

a456463 6mo ago
Not great men. People with "perceived" high networth. Banks will fall over backwards to loan them money. See Chase and Musk. Let's not associate perceived networth with "great"