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Auto play has been a way for me to find new music. I stopped using it because now every listen is accompanied by a a nagging feeling that the song that is playi

by yoz-y 7mo ago

Auto play has been a way for me to find new music. I stopped using it because now every listen is accompanied by a a nagging feeling that the song that is playing might be AI generated. Now I just go and look for new albums from bands I know I like. I wish there was a pre-2023 filter for the algorithmic feed.

croon 7mo ago
If the artists have live shows, it's generally a good indication it's not AI (for now at least).
- asimovDev 7mo ago
  Eddie Dalton hologram concert at Coachella
- yoz-y 7mo ago
  It’s mainly the mental load that you even have to think about it. I find also that much like junk food, AI music is optimized to be catchy. The initial feeling I get is “yeah this is nice”, but then you realize the lyrics are weird, some words don’t exist, the voice is off…
  - deadbabe 7mo ago
    Today is the worst it will ever be.
  - lxgr 7mo ago
    > The initial feeling I get is “yeah this is nice”, but then you realize the lyrics are weird, some words don’t exist, the voice is off… To be fair, you could say the same thing about at least a few pre-AI pop songs.
  - Shorel 7mo ago
    And with all these faults it's still better than Bad Bunny.
- input_sh 7mo ago
  It's not like this one's even trying to hide it, one look at their Instagram will tell you everything: https://www.instagram.com/eddiedaltonmusic/ https://www.instagram.com/eddiedaltonmusic/ I'd like to point out that there's absolutely no way an Instagram account that is not even a month old gets hundreds of thousands of likes almost every upload. That should be an immediate red flag to everyone, Instagram included. Another thing worth pointing out is that iTunes charts in 2026 are pretty meaningless. Do you buy music on iTunes? Does anyone else you know buy music on iTunes? Even those that still buy music have at least 3-4 more relevant stores to chase after. It's like finding a niche book category on Amazon, anyone could astroturf their way to the top 100 and I doubt it'd cost you more than for a legitimate artist to even rent a studio to record an album properly.
  - brigandish 7mo ago
    > Do you buy music on iTunes? That's like asking HN if they buy Christmas CDs at Tesco. This is a very self-selecting group of people. I know people who buy off of iTunes, who don't use Spotify, who've never heard of Bandcamp, who still listen to the radio… there are people beyond your little bubble. It's a big old world.
    - krabizzwainch 7mo ago
      I do try to stick with Bandcamp, but a few bands I want just don’t use it. My wife rolls her eyes at me and my iPod
      - tmtvl 7mo ago
        I've had pretty good luck finding bands on 7Digital when they don't have a Bandcamp. I'm sure they aren't perfect, but they seem better than Apple at least.
    - IAmBroom 7mo ago
      You're re-arguing their point. They are saying it's such a diverse market that iTunes doesn't effectively act as a proxy for the whole market anymore, not that no one shops there anymore (shades of "No one goes there anymore... It's too crowded!").
- pards 7mo ago
  Guns N' Roses blazed this trail in 1986 with their faux live EP titled Live ?!@ Like a Suicide [0] which was reissued as the B-side to G N' R Lies in 1988. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_%3F!*%40_Like_a_Suicide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_%3F!*%40_Like_a_Suicide
  - butlike 7mo ago
    Get your ya ya's out by The Rolling Stones is also a 'live studio album'
topherhunt 7mo ago
I'm sorry but this attitude baffles me, and I think it's the sort of thing that will sound so silly in 20 years that we'll have collectively memory-holed it. If you're turned off from listening to Spotify recoms becausue they _might_ be AI and you _might_ not know, what does that say to you about the disconnect between your aesthetic judgment and your values? If you're listening to Spotify autoplays and a shitty song comes up, skip it. If AI slop is flooding Spotify with shitty songs, they'll naturally fail algorithmically (assuming we trust Spotify to actually be honest about its algos, which I'll admit we shouldn't https://substack.com/@tedgioia/note/c-236242253 https://substack.com/@tedgioia/note/c-236242253) If you're listening to Spotify autoplays and a catchy impressive song comes up, what you do is you _listen to it_ and you _fucking enjoy it_. This knee-jerk disgust reaction of "ugh I worry that it's AI" has no place in your heart in that moment. You're just sitting listening to your plastic-and-rare-earth earbuds reproduce digitized waveforms and paying attention to what the music evokes in you. It seems ridiculous to me that we get distracted by questions about "but what if this music isn't made by a human". Insofar as you're a music-enjoyer, listening to music, the only question should be _is it good_. It shouldn't matter if it was created by duck or slug. The _economic fairness_ aspect is another matter and I don't have as strong opinions there. I think we should ideally incentivize people who use AI in generating their music to disclose their usage, though I have no idea if it's possible to do so, so that consumers who care about only supporting human artists with their listenship-stats can filter to that group. And certainly anyone who closely imitates _a specific artist_, crossing the line from "inspired by" and "shamelessly ripping off", should be severely disincentivized from doing so, whether they used AI or not.
- aaronharnly 7mo ago
  Some of us want to support actual human musicians?
  - fennecbutt 7mo ago
    Well supporting small artists instead of huge celebrities worth almost a billion dollars or more is a start (not for you, for everyone).
wiredfool 7mo ago
I get that feeling in Lidl. Their ambient music used to be somewhat identifiable, now it just seems a bit off.
Cthulhu_ 7mo ago
I've fallen off it a while ago to be honest, AI generated stuff aside, Spotify has only been recommending me really unknown / obscure artists for ages now of debatable quality. I suspect it's an issue with too big and diverse of a dataset, listening history going back years and tens of thousands of songs.
joquarky 7mo ago
This is a seed of OCD. Don't let it grow or it can ruin everything.
abc123abc123 7mo ago
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croon 7mo ago

If the artists have live shows, it's generally a good indication it's not AI (for now at least).

asimovDev 7mo ago
Eddie Dalton hologram concert at Coachella
yoz-y 7mo ago
It’s mainly the mental load that you even have to think about it. I find also that much like junk food, AI music is optimized to be catchy. The initial feeling I get is “yeah this is nice”, but then you realize the lyrics are weird, some words don’t exist, the voice is off…
- deadbabe 7mo ago
  Today is the worst it will ever be.
- lxgr 7mo ago
  > The initial feeling I get is “yeah this is nice”, but then you realize the lyrics are weird, some words don’t exist, the voice is off… To be fair, you could say the same thing about at least a few pre-AI pop songs.
- Shorel 7mo ago
  And with all these faults it's still better than Bad Bunny.
input_sh 7mo ago
It's not like this one's even trying to hide it, one look at their Instagram will tell you everything: https://www.instagram.com/eddiedaltonmusic/ https://www.instagram.com/eddiedaltonmusic/ I'd like to point out that there's absolutely no way an Instagram account that is not even a month old gets hundreds of thousands of likes almost every upload. That should be an immediate red flag to everyone, Instagram included. Another thing worth pointing out is that iTunes charts in 2026 are pretty meaningless. Do you buy music on iTunes? Does anyone else you know buy music on iTunes? Even those that still buy music have at least 3-4 more relevant stores to chase after. It's like finding a niche book category on Amazon, anyone could astroturf their way to the top 100 and I doubt it'd cost you more than for a legitimate artist to even rent a studio to record an album properly.
- brigandish 7mo ago
  > Do you buy music on iTunes? That's like asking HN if they buy Christmas CDs at Tesco. This is a very self-selecting group of people. I know people who buy off of iTunes, who don't use Spotify, who've never heard of Bandcamp, who still listen to the radio… there are people beyond your little bubble. It's a big old world.
  - krabizzwainch 7mo ago
    I do try to stick with Bandcamp, but a few bands I want just don’t use it. My wife rolls her eyes at me and my iPod
    - tmtvl 7mo ago
      I've had pretty good luck finding bands on 7Digital when they don't have a Bandcamp. I'm sure they aren't perfect, but they seem better than Apple at least.
  - IAmBroom 7mo ago
    You're re-arguing their point. They are saying it's such a diverse market that iTunes doesn't effectively act as a proxy for the whole market anymore, not that no one shops there anymore (shades of "No one goes there anymore... It's too crowded!").
pards 7mo ago
Guns N' Roses blazed this trail in 1986 with their faux live EP titled Live ?!@ Like a Suicide [0] which was reissued as the B-side to G N' R Lies in 1988. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_%3F!*%40_Like_a_Suicide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_%3F!*%40_Like_a_Suicide
- butlike 7mo ago
  Get your ya ya's out by The Rolling Stones is also a 'live studio album'

topherhunt 7mo ago

I'm sorry but this attitude baffles me, and I think it's the sort of thing that will sound so silly in 20 years that we'll have collectively memory-holed it. If you're turned off from listening to Spotify recoms becausue they _might_ be AI and you _might_ not know, what does that say to you about the disconnect between your aesthetic judgment and your values? If you're listening to Spotify autoplays and a shitty song comes up, skip it. If AI slop is flooding Spotify with shitty songs, they'll naturally fail algorithmically (assuming we trust Spotify to actually be honest about its algos, which I'll admit we shouldn't https://substack.com/@tedgioia/note/c-236242253 https://substack.com/@tedgioia/note/c-236242253) If you're listening to Spotify autoplays and a catchy impressive song comes up, what you do is you _listen to it_ and you _fucking enjoy it_. This knee-jerk disgust reaction of "ugh I worry that it's AI" has no place in your heart in that moment. You're just sitting listening to your plastic-and-rare-earth earbuds reproduce digitized waveforms and paying attention to what the music evokes in you. It seems ridiculous to me that we get distracted by questions about "but what if this music isn't made by a human". Insofar as you're a music-enjoyer, listening to music, the only question should be _is it good_. It shouldn't matter if it was created by duck or slug. The _economic fairness_ aspect is another matter and I don't have as strong opinions there. I think we should ideally incentivize people who use AI in generating their music to disclose their usage, though I have no idea if it's possible to do so, so that consumers who care about only supporting human artists with their listenship-stats can filter to that group. And certainly anyone who closely imitates _a specific artist_, crossing the line from "inspired by" and "shamelessly ripping off", should be severely disincentivized from doing so, whether they used AI or not.

aaronharnly 7mo ago
Some of us want to support actual human musicians?
- fennecbutt 7mo ago
  Well supporting small artists instead of huge celebrities worth almost a billion dollars or more is a start (not for you, for everyone).

wiredfool 7mo ago

I get that feeling in Lidl. Their ambient music used to be somewhat identifiable, now it just seems a bit off.

Cthulhu_ 7mo ago

I've fallen off it a while ago to be honest, AI generated stuff aside, Spotify has only been recommending me really unknown / obscure artists for ages now of debatable quality. I suspect it's an issue with too big and diverse of a dataset, listening history going back years and tens of thousands of songs.

joquarky 7mo ago

This is a seed of OCD. Don't let it grow or it can ruin everything.

abc123abc123 7mo ago

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