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Classic. This is like that female serial killer in Europe that turned out to actually just be DNA from a woman making the DNA collection swabs.
by giantg2 7mo ago
Classic. This is like that female serial killer in Europe that turned out to actually just be DNA from a woman making the DNA collection swabs.
- thebruce87m 7mo agoI thought that exact thing and opened the comments to see you’d already commented with it. There is a “case files” podcast on it that I found quite good.
- vlz 7mo agoThis seems to be the Casefile episode about the "Phantom of Heilbronn" https://casefilepodcast.com/case-178-the-woman-without-a-face/ https://casefilepodcast.com/case-178-the-woman-without-a-fac...
- alsetmusic 7mo agoThat's incredible. Though the effect of this will be claims that microplastics don't exist while no one in that case claimed that murders didn't happen. Happy to have learned about an interesting historical oddity either way.
- kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 7mo agoI don't think anyone will claim microplastics don't exist, but people will definitely be skeptical of articles about how many there, and where they're found. At worst, I'd expect to see people disregarding the threat, not disregarding the presence of the microplastics themselves.
- alsetmusic 7mo agoI see you're not a fan of hyperbole. Though I sorta meant it, so maybe it's not.
- Lerc 7mo agoI'm not sure if they have established a threat. I thought it was mostly hypothesised or very locally specific harms. On the other hand I suspect much of the real science on environmental plastic might avoid the term microplastic since it seems to have a meaning that flows to whatever can make the scariest headline today. I have seen the size range to qualify run from microscopic up to a couple of millimetres. Volumes, quantities, or location stated without regard to individual particle size. I'm relatively certain that they have not discovered 1mm particles inside red blood cells. Even what counts as a plastic seems to be an easy way of adding vagueness, I saw one table that seemed to count cellulose as a plastic, which makes sense if you are thinking about properties of the material, but unsurprisingly easy to come across that it's not really worth going looking for it.
- dijit 7mo ago[dead]
- cachius 7mo agoThe Phantom of Heilbronn, often alternatively referred to as the Woman Without a Face, was a hypothesized unknown female serial killer whose existence was inferred from DNA evidence found at numerous crime scenes in Austria, France and Germany from 1993 to 2009. The only connection between the crimes was the presence of DNA from a single female, which had been recovered from 40 crime scenes, ranging from murders to burglaries. In late March 2009, investigators concluded that there was no "phantom criminal", and the DNA had already been present on the cotton swabs used for collecting DNA samples; it belonged to a woman who worked at the factory where they were made. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_of_Heilbronn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_of_Heilbronn
- pell 7mo agoInterestingly, contamination of the forensic equipment was considered early on already. However, due to the geographic area of the findings and initial negative control tests using fresh swabs, they ruled it out.
- MagicMoonlight 7mo agoThat’s why you’re supposed to submit an unused swab with the samples, so that they can make sure the swab itself isn’t the source.
- FartyMcFarter 7mo agoPlot twist: the woman making the DNA collection swabs was the serial killer.
- crest 7mo agoIt's the perfect cover!
- cr125rider 7mo agoSomeone should make a show about that… her name could be Dexterette!
- Imustaskforhelp 7mo agoSad to see that you are downvoted. It's sad seeing that Hackernews doesn't understand Dexter memes.. (Amazing show, Highly recommended) The Bay Harbor Butcheress[0] :) [0]: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/butcheress https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/butcheress (at First I made it as a joke but turns out that butcheress is a real term, indeed)
- oharapj 7mo agoThis isn’t Reddit. Awesome bacon sauce posts generally aren’t appreciated
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- EasyMark 7mo agoturns out she's also calling from inside the house!
- fweimer 7mo agoThey weren't DNA collection swabs, but sterile swabs intended for medical use.
- ErigmolCt 7mo agoWhen your methods get really sensitive, you stop just measuring the world and start measuring your own process too
- Perepiska 7mo agoto save time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_of_Heilbronn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_of_Heilbronn