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Excuse my ignorance, but why can't this be traced? It's not crypto wallets, why is there no transparency here?

stephbook 7mo ago
It can be traced, but the people who could and should be tracing this have been told not to. Even if they found the culprits, what's a judge's verdict against a presidential pardon?
- magpi3 7mo ago
  > Even if they found the culprits, what's a judge's verdict against a presidential pardon? This is bad logic. A presidential pardon at least exposes the corruption, and exposing the corruption is more important than a prison sentence.
  - yifanl 7mo ago
    Is there anyone who isnt Trump4Life who still needs to be convinced theres corruption happening very high up in the government? We've very little doubt its happening, and it does us no good if there arent actions taken against it.
    - fc417fc802 7mo ago
      It still needs to be methodically exposed. The process is important.
      - libertine 7mo ago
        What if people don't care because it's their guy?
        fc417fc802 7mo ago
        ... that's the same question I responded to there.
- ndsipa_pomu 7mo ago
  If the culprits have been pardoned, they'd still be able to be sued by people who lost out during those trades.
magpi3 7mo ago
Maybe because the rot runs so deep in Washington that nobody really wants this to be a big deal. A little like the Epstein files: so many people would be caught up in the web if insider trading in DC were properly investigated that nobody wants to go there.
IAmGraydon 7mo ago
It absolutely can be traced. The administration has people blocking investigations.
watwut 7mo ago
Literally everyone who investigated Trump got fored or left. Flynn just got large payout as reward for breaking the law for Trump. That is why.
kasey_junk 7mo ago
It can. Orders on the cme are tied to a specific trader id. The question is not if it can be investigated it’s if it will be and what will happen with the findings. The first thing the Trump admin did in its second term was gut the anticorruption offices and the cftc.
sonzohan 7mo ago
It's not that it can't be traced, the author is stating it won't be traced because high-ranking government officials are selling those secrets. This is actually not new in this administration. Last year the president posted on social media telling people to buy stocks a few hours before he announced tariffs (https://apnews.com/article/trump-truth-social-djt-tesla-musk-tariffs-pause-fccfa6b06c8f1ec0cd7844641ca52669 https://apnews.com/article/trump-truth-social-djt-tesla-musk...). The bigger problem isn't whether or not it can be traced, or if it should be traced. It can and it should. The central issue at stake here is the sale of government secrets to private and (presently) anonymous groups for profit. The author is stating that since we don't know who the trader of that commodity is, and because that commodity's price is tightly coupled to actions related to the war, that trader could be helping enemies of the U.S. Without the knowledge of who the person is, or how they knew to make such a huge market movement, a claim of treason can be argued. The biggest problem is the intelligence community is heavily rooted in trust. Movements like these signal there's an intelligence leak to the general public, or more appropriately, someone with $580 million lying around. An intelligence leak reduces trust; allies are less likely to share information if it's leaked. Conversely, trust is returned when the leaks are found and plugged, and measures put in place to prevent those leaks in the future. The author is stating that these leaks are unlikely to be plugged, which will reduce trust in American intelligence. After all, as the president said, "Let's say I was gonna do it or let's say I wasn't gonna do it, why would I tell you?" (https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c4gqjyk0vx3t https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c4gqjyk0vx3t) Except he is telling someone, and that someone is making a lot of money.
- throw0101c 7mo ago
  > It's not that it can't be traced, the author is stating it won't be traced because high-ranking government officials are selling those secrets. "US SEC's ex-enforcement chief clashed with bosses over Trump cases before leaving, sources say": * https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/us-secs-ex-enforcement-chief-clashed-with-bosses-before-leaving-sources-say-2026-03-23/ https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/us-secs-ex-enforcem... "SEC enforcement director quits": * https://www.cfodive.com/news/sec-enforcement-director-abruptly-quits-Margaret-Ryan/814987/ https://www.cfodive.com/news/sec-enforcement-director-abrupt... The head of the SEC didn't want the SEC's investigation division to investigate (certain things).

It can be traced, but the people who could and should be tracing this have been told not to. Even if they found the culprits, what's a judge's verdict against a presidential pardon?

magpi3 7mo ago
> Even if they found the culprits, what's a judge's verdict against a presidential pardon? This is bad logic. A presidential pardon at least exposes the corruption, and exposing the corruption is more important than a prison sentence.
- yifanl 7mo ago
  Is there anyone who isnt Trump4Life who still needs to be convinced theres corruption happening very high up in the government? We've very little doubt its happening, and it does us no good if there arent actions taken against it.
  - fc417fc802 7mo ago
    It still needs to be methodically exposed. The process is important.
    - libertine 7mo ago
      What if people don't care because it's their guy?
      - fc417fc802 7mo ago
        ... that's the same question I responded to there.
ndsipa_pomu 7mo ago
If the culprits have been pardoned, they'd still be able to be sued by people who lost out during those trades.

magpi3 7mo ago

Maybe because the rot runs so deep in Washington that nobody really wants this to be a big deal. A little like the Epstein files: so many people would be caught up in the web if insider trading in DC were properly investigated that nobody wants to go there.

IAmGraydon 7mo ago

It absolutely can be traced. The administration has people blocking investigations.

watwut 7mo ago

Literally everyone who investigated Trump got fored or left. Flynn just got large payout as reward for breaking the law for Trump. That is why.

kasey_junk 7mo ago

It can. Orders on the cme are tied to a specific trader id. The question is not if it can be investigated it’s if it will be and what will happen with the findings. The first thing the Trump admin did in its second term was gut the anticorruption offices and the cftc.

sonzohan 7mo ago

It's not that it can't be traced, the author is stating it won't be traced because high-ranking government officials are selling those secrets. This is actually not new in this administration. Last year the president posted on social media telling people to buy stocks a few hours before he announced tariffs (https://apnews.com/article/trump-truth-social-djt-tesla-musk-tariffs-pause-fccfa6b06c8f1ec0cd7844641ca52669 https://apnews.com/article/trump-truth-social-djt-tesla-musk...). The bigger problem isn't whether or not it can be traced, or if it should be traced. It can and it should. The central issue at stake here is the sale of government secrets to private and (presently) anonymous groups for profit. The author is stating that since we don't know who the trader of that commodity is, and because that commodity's price is tightly coupled to actions related to the war, that trader could be helping enemies of the U.S. Without the knowledge of who the person is, or how they knew to make such a huge market movement, a claim of treason can be argued. The biggest problem is the intelligence community is heavily rooted in trust. Movements like these signal there's an intelligence leak to the general public, or more appropriately, someone with $580 million lying around. An intelligence leak reduces trust; allies are less likely to share information if it's leaked. Conversely, trust is returned when the leaks are found and plugged, and measures put in place to prevent those leaks in the future. The author is stating that these leaks are unlikely to be plugged, which will reduce trust in American intelligence. After all, as the president said, "Let's say I was gonna do it or let's say I wasn't gonna do it, why would I tell you?" (https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c4gqjyk0vx3t https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c4gqjyk0vx3t) Except he is telling someone, and that someone is making a lot of money.

throw0101c 7mo ago
> It's not that it can't be traced, the author is stating it won't be traced because high-ranking government officials are selling those secrets. "US SEC's ex-enforcement chief clashed with bosses over Trump cases before leaving, sources say": * https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/us-secs-ex-enforcement-chief-clashed-with-bosses-before-leaving-sources-say-2026-03-23/ https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/us-secs-ex-enforcem... "SEC enforcement director quits": * https://www.cfodive.com/news/sec-enforcement-director-abruptly-quits-Margaret-Ryan/814987/ https://www.cfodive.com/news/sec-enforcement-director-abrupt... The head of the SEC didn't want the SEC's investigation division to investigate (certain things).