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Is it illegal or is it just illegal on general purpose platforms whose focus isn't extreme security? We all know Meta can still read E2EE chats (otherwise they
by gzread 7mo ago
Is it illegal or is it just illegal on general purpose platforms whose focus isn't extreme security?
We all know Meta can still read E2EE chats (otherwise they wouldn't do it) and they're using E2EE as an excuse to avoid liability for the things their platform encourages. Contrast this with something like Signal where the entire point is to be secure.
- cristoperb 7mo ago> We all know Meta can still read E2EE chats That can't be true, otherwise in what sense is it E2EE?
- gzread 7mo agoIn the sense that calling it E2EE gives people a warm fuzzy feeling and makes people send more sensitive information over the platform. Has anyone actually audited it?
- babelfish 7mo agoProbably their auditors? Lying about this would be tantamount to (very serious) securities fraud. Not sure what you're basing on your allegations on besides "trust me bro"
- Supermancho 7mo ago[dead]
- gzread 7mo agoWhy would lying about having E2EE be securities (as in stock market) fraud? Would that make any lie ever told by a corporation equate to stock market fraud?
- interestpiqued 7mo agoI mean you can read it in your app and they're not just stored on your phone. E2E just means in transport from what I understand.
- SAI_Peregrinus 7mo agoE2EE means end-to-end, where the ends are the participants in the chat. They can read it on your phone, but not on their servers. They need their app to separately transmit the plaintext to their servers to read it.
- throwaway173738 7mo agoWhich is technically possible.
- interestpiqued 7mo agoSo literally what I was implying
- duskdozer 7mo agoWell, I've seen services describe having "E2EE" where one end is your computer and the other end is their server, so...
- vaylian 7mo agoThe metadata is still unencrypted. That also reveals quite a bit.
- markdown 7mo agoThe first two E's in E2EE stand for end. From one end to the other. So no, Meta can't. Or put another way... if they can read those messages, then it's not E2EE.