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Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights
- SilverElfin 7mo agoWe need to also ban people taking calls on speaker in public places like cafes or trains.
- lagniappe 7mo agoJoin the conversation, works every time.
- Hamuko 7mo agoI've thought about doing that several times, seeing as they're already including me. Just need to become a bit more brazen of a person.
- paradox460 7mo agoThey look at you like you're the rudest person in the world. It's quite the trip I had one person say >Excuse me, I was having a private conversation At which point you say "on speakerphone with everyone else able to hear it?"
- irishcoffee 7mo agoI don’t think United airlines has the authority to do that. That is to say, do you really want a federal law passed about this? I vote we go with social shaming. Worked for cigarettes.
- eudamoniac 7mo agoSome cultures don't really get phased by shaming in that way, unfortunately.
- SilverElfin 7mo agoShaming doesn’t always work. I’ve asked politely and been threatened in return by people that look dangerous. That made me want to avoid confrontation in the future.
- mikkupikku 7mo agoIt didn't really work well with cigs until govs started banning smoking in restaurants, bars, etc. That said, the shaming was important for setting the social stage for such legal bans.
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- bigstrat2003 7mo agoI don't really want that. But I do sometimes fantasize about revoking some people's ability to use speakerphone or reply-all.
- balderdash 7mo agoOf course they do - they modified their contract of carriage - which you basically agree to why buy a flight (https://www.united.com/en/us/fly/contract-of-carriage.html https://www.united.com/en/us/fly/contract-of-carriage.html) it’s the same mechanism they use to deny you boarding if you are barefoot etc.
- irishcoffee 7mo agoSorry friend, I sarcastically was saying united cannot enforce their rules in cafes et. al.
- lokar 7mo agoYou should be able to report them to apple and google, lifetime smart phone ban.
- osti 7mo ago[flagged]
- quietsegfault 7mo agoNO TICKET
- lelanthran 7mo agoI wonder how many people got this reference. Anyway, for those who did not: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCZ86O3PO-U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCZ86O3PO-U
- shagie 7mo agoCould have also gone for Dogma (which of course references that clip) https://youtu.be/PpckOsftaP4?si=DDlDY3ZK7FoUcKrn&t=41 https://youtu.be/PpckOsftaP4?si=DDlDY3ZK7FoUcKrn&t=41
- cobbzilla 7mo agoHave you ever tried to sleep while the person next to you watches a movie at full volume?
- furyofantares 7mo ago[flagged]
- dmitrygr 7mo agoYes! Now do the same on beaches, busses, streets. Same punishment: banishment from the area.
- SilverElfin 7mo agoI often see younger people in parks near me blasting loud music on speakers. It’s so disrespectful to those looking for a peaceful place. Especially when they’re playing explicit rap music with everyone’s families and children around.
- wolvoleo 7mo agoYeah or people on bikes with a boombox. They do it because it's illegal to cycle with earphones in in these parts. But it creates its own problem of course.
- mikkupikku 7mo agoI wonder if shoulder mounted speakers that aren't touching the users ears could help resolve this to everybody's reasonable satisfaction. (That is, everybody who's not deliberately trying to broadcast their music to everybody else.)
- izzydata 7mo agoI was recently in Hawaii in the middle of the forest and this group nearby on the trail were blasting music from a bluetooth speaker. Whether it is compelte lack of self awareness or utter disregard for other people it is just disturbing behavior.
- JumpCrisscross 7mo ago> It’s so disrespectful to those looking for a peaceful place Idk, they’re not looking for “a peaceful place” and are using a public space without damaging it. Nobody is forced to use the park at the same time as them. This seems like a difference in preferences which is fine.
- keiferski 7mo agoI first interpreted the title as meaning you must use the cheapo free headphones and aren’t allowed to use your own.
- temporallobe 7mo agoGood.
- gnabgib 7mo agoDiscussion (18 points, 15 days ago, 15 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47276399 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47276399
- binarymax 7mo agoI want to echo the top comment in that post. Apple removing the headphone jack from iPhones was absolutely criminal.
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- mikkupikku 7mo agoAt cruising altitude, I hope.
- nexxuz 7mo ago[flagged]
- raggi 7mo agoOk, but how about kicking sick people off of flights, particularly trans continental?
- JumpCrisscross 7mo ago> how about kicking sick people off of flights Difficult for the airline to do given the myriad of health privacy adjacents.
- sebastiennight 7mo agoWhat if we asked the President to give us a quick rundown of each passenger's health?
- INTPenis 7mo agoI'm behind this 100%. I got a SARS virus flying to Udon Thani in 2019. We were seated next to two thai guys who were so sick they could barely sit up straight. We offered them help and treats because they looked like they were about to vomit. Plane lands, next day I'm sick. I was laid up for 2 weeks with fever, the shits, and I had a weird spontaneous cough for over 1 month after I got better. I bet most of that plane got sick, and it was so damn avoidable.
- IncreasePosts 7mo agoThe problem is there can he huge penalties for not flying when you booked. You might not be able to rebook your flight or hotel or days off so you're stuck either getting everyone sick or perhaps being out thousands of dollars or not going on vacation at all.
- INTPenis 7mo agoThen they should have containment suits on the plane. If they see someone THAT sick, stick em in the suit.
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- pjmlp 7mo agoIs this really a thing?!? Blasting the others with unwanted noise. I never been in a flight, or train across Europe where passengers showed just lack of respect for the others. The only ones pumping anything loud, on trains or busses, usually get quickly pointed down by other passengers, personal or security. Ah, and then there are the rebellious kids or gangs, as the other exception, which usually don't take flights anyway.
- mikkupikku 7mo agoIn America, a small number of people derive pleasure from being disruptive to everybody, and blasting music on public transit with captive audiences is a very "traditional" way of fucking with people and expressing your broad contempt for their society. I'd estimate that maybe one in five times you get on a city bus in America, you'll encounter somebody like this. Very rarely does anybody call them out or otherwise try to reign it in, because you're as likely as not to be physically attacked and in America, the odds of bystanders coming to your rescue are... Not zero, but not great.
- JumpCrisscross 7mo agoI’ve absolutely seen this nonsense in the UK.
- mikkupikku 7mo agoDoesn't surprise me, but I'm only speaking from my experience in America.
- gib444 7mo agoYup. Eg guys getting on Thameslink services in south London, walking right up to the area behind the driver's cab and and start creating a disturbance. Driver stops the train and has a go at them if he's feeling in the mood...
- LaurensBER 7mo ago20%? That's a bit insane. This does happen in Europe but is heavily looked down up on and usually quickly corrected. On the other hand I did get a chewing out from an older guy for having a conversation with friends on a train once, so some people take it perhaps a bit too serious.
- HPsquared 7mo agoI assume it's about blasting others with noise, not company sponsored headphones.
- mindslight 7mo agoA disinforming clickbait headline strikes again. This isn't about it being mandatory to use headphones, ala TNG "The Game". Rather it's about using speakers that broadcast sound for everyone to "enjoy". I haven't been molested and crushed^w^w^w^wflown in quite some time, but with the noise floor on airplanes being so high to begin with I'd imagine the result is much worse than somewhere that is at least quieter to start.
- ashwinnair99 7mo agoAirlines have been quietly expanding what they can remove you for. This isn't really about headphones. It's about how much discretion crew have now and how little recourse you have at 35,000 feet.
- leptons 7mo agoYou might blame the airlines, but passengers have become more rude and entitled year after year. It's really everywhere now, not just on airplanes. I personally am fine with removing passengers who think they are entitled to annoy the rest of us when we can't just get up and leave the place.
- 0x3f 7mo agoThe airlines could alway remove you for literally any reason. Even if it was discriminatory or otherwise illegal, you'd still definitely be getting off the plane, at least.
- lelanthran 7mo agoLook... if me and 199 other passengers are going to abide by restrictions we were informed about before we paid any money for a ticket, it's completely unfair that the authorities make an exception for one passenger who accepted the same contract we all did. Arrest them on board, handcuff them and lead them away in handcuffs at the destination. No sympathy from me, especially since the only way the handcuffs route is going to happen is if the passenger in questions ignores the instructions from the flight crew. I also have to note that on most flights, whether domestic or international, the it's already a criminal offence to ignore an instruction from the flight crew. The airline here did not need to make publish a new rule, they could have simply had the flight crew inform the annoying passenger.
- standardUser 7mo agoThe ones with limited recourse are the flight crew who are trapped with you and a hundred other asshole for hours with no escape and very limited options in case of a serious disruption. If there is one space that has justification to act as temporary dictatorship, it's an aircraft in flight.
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- austin-cheney 7mo agoI agree with the policy but this is such a mild offense. Just a few years ago in the US there was an epidemic of drunk people savagely beating flight attendants. People who cannot figure out how to share use of shared space should lose access to those places.
- halapro 7mo agoYes and no. I don't want to be a Karen, but also I think it's fair to not cause discomfort to others. Imagine if every flight was as noisy a city intersection. For 5 hours. And you can't hide.
- paxys 7mo agoGood, now do the same for public transit.
- standardUser 7mo agoThey should be stripped of all citizenship and left to live out their life roaming the airport. But this is a start.
- verdverm 7mo agoAn app you can use to play back their audio on a short delay that messes with the brain https://github.com/Pankajtanwarbanna/stfu https://github.com/Pankajtanwarbanna/stfu
- MiddleEndian 7mo agoPretty sweet. Do you have it hosted anywhere? Seems github doesn't want to let you load HTML directly (for obvious reasons lol)
- verdverm 7mo agoNot mine, I'll keep this limitation in mind when I redo my personal site and add it in so it's easy to remember (for me at least ;)
- hxorr 7mo agoThis sounds like a USA problem..
- zeroonetwothree 7mo agoI have definitely seen people use speakers in countries other than the USA.
- penguin_booze 7mo ago1 of n problems.
- petermcneeley 7mo agoObligatory Spock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr82dZpCr48 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr82dZpCr48
- lucasay 7mo agoFeels less like malice and more like people just not thinking about others. Still, on a plane you’re stuck for hours—rules like this make sense.
- latand6 7mo agoI was a passenger that was asked NOT to use the headphones regularly. Not from USA though
- general1465 7mo agoOn one hand I understand why this exists, but on the other hand, I don't think it is even necessary. There is so much noise during the flight, and combined with lower atmospheric pressure I can barely hear what steward standing next to me is saying.
- dalmo3 7mo agoPSA: get an etymotic in ear phones, play some quiet music, and forget you're flying. Those things become your eardrums. https://etymotic.com/product/er2xr-earphones/ https://etymotic.com/product/er2xr-earphones/
- unsupp0rted 7mo agoThey're pretty good, but not great. Just passive noise cancelling. My AirPods Pros block noise better actually, but I have after-market foam eartips on them. Regardless, the problem is less speakerphone music and more shrill child voices and screams. No eartips can block those frequencies well it seems.
- b3ing 7mo agoThey tell people not to do it on busses but it still happens, typically people are more respectful at night but not always. However I never worry about terrorists on the bus, they would get jacked up fast
- userbinator 7mo agoI don't understand how people can stand the sound of the plane itself and whatever they're listening to on top of that. I consider IEMs or ANC TWS to be necessary whenever I'm on a flight, and that's even without listening to anything else.
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- kuba-orlik 7mo agoHow do you kick someone off a flight?