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> not spam it on every website just for visiting? It's the website that spamming that. Either via google.accounts.id.prompt(), or options provided to loaded G

> not spam it on every website just for visiting? It's the website that spamming that. Either via google.accounts.id.prompt(), or options provided to loaded Google scripts. Google is guilty only insofar as that feature is possible.

harry8 7mo ago
Google is guilty
- hilbert42 7mo ago
  Trouble is we cognoscenti know it but the great unwashed do not and or don't give a damn about the fact. Google and all of Big Tech well know of our objections but unfortunately we are only hardly perceptible noise to be ignored on their way to even greater profits.
al_borland 7mo ago
There is no way this many sites did it organically without Google pushing it in some way, not to mention they built the thing in the first place (as you mentioned). There also doesn’t seem to be any way to disable it (other than maybe an extension that I saw recently, but at $15 I needed to think about how much I want to spend just because Google is obnoxious). I’m sure the real goal of this “feature” is to get people to sign-up for the site without them actually realizing they are signing up. They click OK just so the modal goes away and now the site has their email address. They can use that growing email list to seek higher prices from sponsors when they put an add in their newsletter the user will now be spammed with. Imagine if the other auth providers followed suit. Open a news article and you need to close the Google auth, Apple auth, Facebook auth, Microsoft auth, GutHub auth, X auth… I’m sure I’m forgetting some. After closing those 6 modals, reject the cookie prompt, close the newsletter modal, and maybe now we can start reading the article if there is an auto-playing video ad covering some of the content. All of this is really pushing me away from the internet in general and souring me on the tech industry as a whole. I’m at that point where I find myself casually browsing for jobs that won’t require I ever touch a computer again.
- still_grokking 7mo ago
  Just use µBlock Origin for most of the annoyances, and for the stupid google popup a simple Stylus CSS rule is enough.
- fauigerzigerk 7mo ago
  You can disable it in your Chrome settings: chrome://settings/content/federatedIdentityApi Websites that choose to put a sign-in with Google button on a page can disable the popup by setting data-auto_prompt="false". The default being "true" is how Google is pushing this, but this seems like a rather gentle way of pushing. It's clearly a deliberate choice that websites make. Your explanation as to why they're doing it seems very plausible to me.
  - al_borland 7mo ago
    I don’t using Chrome. Having to use Chrome to disable a Google “feature” doesn’t feel like a path forward.
    - fauigerzigerk 7mo ago
      I think this whole functionality is actually based on an experimental browser API (FedCM) that may be coming to other browsers as well. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/FedCM_API https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/FedCM_API But ultimately websites can pop up whatever annoying nonsense they want. There isn't really any "way forward" except avoiding bad websites or using ad blockers.
- paulddraper 7mo ago
  They did it because they want you to be signed in, for tracking, upsell, or whatever else.

harry8 7mo ago

Google is guilty

hilbert42 7mo ago
Trouble is we cognoscenti know it but the great unwashed do not and or don't give a damn about the fact. Google and all of Big Tech well know of our objections but unfortunately we are only hardly perceptible noise to be ignored on their way to even greater profits.

al_borland 7mo ago

There is no way this many sites did it organically without Google pushing it in some way, not to mention they built the thing in the first place (as you mentioned). There also doesn’t seem to be any way to disable it (other than maybe an extension that I saw recently, but at $15 I needed to think about how much I want to spend just because Google is obnoxious). I’m sure the real goal of this “feature” is to get people to sign-up for the site without them actually realizing they are signing up. They click OK just so the modal goes away and now the site has their email address. They can use that growing email list to seek higher prices from sponsors when they put an add in their newsletter the user will now be spammed with. Imagine if the other auth providers followed suit. Open a news article and you need to close the Google auth, Apple auth, Facebook auth, Microsoft auth, GutHub auth, X auth… I’m sure I’m forgetting some. After closing those 6 modals, reject the cookie prompt, close the newsletter modal, and maybe now we can start reading the article if there is an auto-playing video ad covering some of the content. All of this is really pushing me away from the internet in general and souring me on the tech industry as a whole. I’m at that point where I find myself casually browsing for jobs that won’t require I ever touch a computer again.

still_grokking 7mo ago
Just use µBlock Origin for most of the annoyances, and for the stupid google popup a simple Stylus CSS rule is enough.
fauigerzigerk 7mo ago
You can disable it in your Chrome settings: chrome://settings/content/federatedIdentityApi Websites that choose to put a sign-in with Google button on a page can disable the popup by setting data-auto_prompt="false". The default being "true" is how Google is pushing this, but this seems like a rather gentle way of pushing. It's clearly a deliberate choice that websites make. Your explanation as to why they're doing it seems very plausible to me.
- al_borland 7mo ago
  I don’t using Chrome. Having to use Chrome to disable a Google “feature” doesn’t feel like a path forward.
  - fauigerzigerk 7mo ago
    I think this whole functionality is actually based on an experimental browser API (FedCM) that may be coming to other browsers as well. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/FedCM_API https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/FedCM_API But ultimately websites can pop up whatever annoying nonsense they want. There isn't really any "way forward" except avoiding bad websites or using ad blockers.
paulddraper 7mo ago
They did it because they want you to be signed in, for tracking, upsell, or whatever else.