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I think anyone running a website should avoid visiting the UK from now on.
by diego_sandoval 6mo ago
I think anyone running a website should avoid visiting the UK from now on.
- throwawaytea 6mo agoA gf asked to go on a trip to England/Ireland and I told her I will go to Brazil or Colombia before I go to the UK. Im not going to risk getting in trouble because I made a post online or discussed immigration or trans people in the wrong way according to them.
- edwcross 6mo agoIn those countries, you'll probably have more to fear for your physical security from non-governmental threats than the other way around. But given the increasingly dystopian state of many countries worldwide, you may also encounter difficulties related to administrative burden and systems with not enough human oversight and override for exceptional situations.
- specproc 6mo agoNo chance I'd go to America, as they definitely check that sort of thing at the border now. Not sure how often that happens coming to the UK, yet.
- throwawaytea 6mo agoIt happens to citizens of the UK everyday, so I'm not really into finding out how tourists are treated.
- 2postsperday 6mo ago[flagged]
- marcus_holmes 6mo agoYou are the victim of misinformation and need to check your sources.
- throwawaytea 6mo agoSo are you. Wow we really learned a lot didn't we.
- marcus_holmes 6mo agoI am not making blatantly false statements about someone else's country that are obviously repeating political talking points. Again, please check your sources before posting obvious disinformation.
- sva_ 6mo agoI just went there as German and it actually went really smooth. They just asked me why I'm visiting and I said to visit a friend/tourism, took less than 2 minutes. So I think this is FUD
- fc417fc802 6mo agoThat's usually how it goes with the US as well but every now and then they decide to search someone's electronic devices. Of course AFAIK this can happen pretty much everywhere at this point so your only hope is being a citizen of a country that doesn't allow it for locals (such as the US) and then not traveling. Or wipe your devices prior to traveling.
- patrickmcnamara 6mo agoWhat is the HN way to say "touch grass"?
- pessimizer 6mo agoNot to say it, but instead to choose to say something both interesting and directly responsive to the comment you're replying to.
- Leynos 6mo agoOkay, here goes. You can tell when someone is acting in bad faith when they talk about a law that has been in force and enforced since the 1960s is something new. Of course, "touch grass" works just as well.
- DANmode 6mo agoDoes it?
- Leynos 6mo agoYup
- throwawaytea 6mo agoLaws can be in existence for decades before they are weaponized against people. It's illegal to have most eBay/Amazon bulbs on your car because they are not DOT approved. If someday they start impounding cars crossing state borders with light bars, fog lights, and LEDs of races they don't want in that state... Someone like you will say "you're just making stuff up, that law has been on effect since 1961."
- Leynos 6mo agoAnd do you have statistical evidence to back up your claim of increased enforcement, or are you just reading about it in the Daily Mail?
- Reason077 6mo ago> "Im not going to risk getting in trouble because I made a post online or discussed immigration or trans people in the wrong way according to them." This is a mis-truth which has been spread by Joe Rogan and his ilk. Political speech is very much protected in UK law. You won't get in "trouble" if you make posts against immigration or trans people. J.K. Rowling and Ricky Gervais certainly haven't been locked up. Yes, there have been cases, such as the infamous Cowley Hill School case where Hertfordshire police arrested a couple over their posts in a school WhatsApp group. However, such arrests are illegal and in that case the police had to apologise and pay compensation. What will get you in trouble in the UK is threatening violence against people or posting hate speech that encourages others to do so. But this is also true in the USA and in most countries.
- Dylan16807 6mo ago> You won't get in "trouble" if you make posts against immigration or trans people. Not to say anyone would actually get in trouble for just some opinion posts, but I don't know why you went with "against" here, I think "for" is the more likely one to make the current UK (or US) government upset.
- TeapotNotKettle 6mo ago“Burn old fella burn”, felt like political speech - but that didn’t work out so well.
- troad 6mo ago> Political speech is very much protected in UK law With "protected political speech" being defined as which flavour of the established, incompetent elite you prefer this year. People have been arrested in the UK for holding blank signs within vicinity of Palestine marches. People have been arrested over protesting Charles' coronation. To say nothing of thousands of people arrested every year over tweets. Political speech is basically criminalised in the UK at this point. This is not an establishment worth any of our respect.
- hunterpayne 6mo agoYou forgot the part where they are literally debating if to get rid of jury trials or not because the government didn't hire enough judges.
- lovich 6mo agoNot like good ole America where you can get arrested for mocking Charlie Kirk.
- hunterpayne 6mo ago[flagged]
- lovich 6mo ago> Nobody was arrested. You are entirely incorrect. https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/17/politics/retired-cop-jailed-over-charlie-kirk-meme https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/17/politics/retired-cop-jailed-o...
- heavyset_go 6mo agoFrom "Retired cop jailed for 37 days over Charlie Kirk meme sues, saying his First Amendment rights were violated"[1]: > A retired Tennessee law enforcement officer was held in jail for more than a month this fall after police arrested him over a Facebook post of a meme related to the September assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. [1] https://edition.cnn.com/2025/12/17/politics/retired-cop-jailed-over-charlie-kirk-meme https://edition.cnn.com/2025/12/17/politics/retired-cop-jail...
- hdgvhicv 6mo agoHow brainwashed do you have to be to come out with this?
- School-Cotton 6mo agoYou can be arrested for being racist in Brazil
- n3t 6mo agoIreland, in contrast to Northern Ireland, is not part of the UK.
- hdgvhicv 6mo agoDon’t tell MAGAs, might cause them to cry https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/maga-traveler-dragged-online-after-saying-her-politics-ruined-ireland-vacation/ar-AA1YuSZH https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/maga-traveler-dragged-o...
- tim333 6mo agoThe UK I don't think has arrested anyone for running a website.
- Hamuko 6mo agoI don't think it's a great argument considering that the law in question is the Online Safety Act 2023.
- tim333 6mo agoThere are a lot of things you can worry about in life. I'm not sure not visiting countries due to things zero people have had a problem with is productive. I'd be more worried visiting the US with the ICE stuff, although I accept that's rare but there's real cases like https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/21/karen-newton-valid-visa-detained-ice https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/21/karen-newton...
- raxxorraxor 6mo agoPointing at someone even worse underlines how the behavior in question, here a law, is a complete failure. Well I guess sudden cardiac arrest is even worse than silly internet rules.
- jdkee 6mo agoThe police in the UK have arrested more than 12,000 citizens for online speech. https://www.forbes.com/sites/steveforbes/2025/09/09/people-are-being-thrown-in-uk-prisons-over-what-theyve-said-online-can-free-speech-be-saved/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/steveforbes/2025/09/09/people-a...
- Nursie 6mo agoI mean yes and no. Looking through that article, one of the examples is "The wife of a conservative politician was sentenced to 31 months in prison for what police said was an unacceptable post." But if you dig into what happened - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp3wkzgpjxvo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp3wkzgpjxvo "The wife of a Conservative councillor has been jailed for 31 months after calling for hotels housing asylum seekers to be set on fire." This is pretty clear incitement to violence. The UK has problems, but it's not very useful to throw all of these cases together to make a big number, it really rather undermines the point. (edit - looking at the video posted in a sibling comment is enlightening. The number actually convicted of anything is around ~400 and this includes a lot of direct incitement to violence, stalking and all sorts. Which are similarly illegal in the US. The US right-wing talking points are as usual a load of crap. None of which is to say I think the UK has things right, and that number of arrests is clearly a problem in itself, but as usual the "OH MY GOD look at what's happening over there! Muh free speech!" from the US commenters is hypocritical and myopic)
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- badc0ffee 6mo ago> We’re not a police state like the US, there’ll be no action unless there is irrefutable proof, of which they’ll have none and can acquire none unless the person readily admits it. Are you talking about the same UK where people get harassed by the police for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-crime_hate_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-crime_hate_incident ?
- jwlake 6mo agoAnyone owning 4chan should be very anonymous and only operate in a very friendly jurisdiction. Normal websites, no one cares.
- reverius42 6mo agoIs 4chan much worse than X (or rather, is X much better than 4chan) these days?
- hdgvhicv 6mo agoThe owner of X is more powerful than the owner of 4chan
- dukeyukey 6mo agoWhy? I run a few.