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Why does this comment get voted down? Which part are people against hearing/reading about? Is it the fact that the USA is an empire, the fact that its own journ

Why does this comment get voted down? Which part are people against hearing/reading about? Is it the fact that the USA is an empire, the fact that its own journalistic efforts are propaganda, the claim that VoA is the biggest propaganda organ, or something else?

kasey_junk 7mo ago
That the emperor is the one that shut it down in the first place. So some part of the statement is logically inconsistent.
- kelipso 7mo ago
  Not really. He is just one of many imperial managers.
- Schlagbohrer 7mo ago
  It is not logically inconsistent. The "Imperial Manager"ial class mentioned in the OP is multifaceted. That is to say, there are warring factions within the ruling class who disagree on details about certain things. (other things they are fully aligned on such as stamping down on the working class)
lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 7mo ago
It's a logically unconvincing point of view (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47424628 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47424628) delivered with sarcasm. The sarcasm is something people have to ignore to post a substantive reply and it's not redeemed by making a strong point that's worthy of discussion.
staticman2 7mo ago
Even if America is an empire and VoA is propaganda "Imperial Manager" doesn't seem very descriptive of what a judge does.
- crawfordcomeaux 7mo ago
  It does more describing work than what the word "judge" is doing here. So much so that it's controversial.
wat10000 7mo ago
It’s the sort of comment that does nothing to inform or convince or really say anything. If you already agree with it the you’ll like it. If you don’t then it doesn’t tell you anything. Its only purpose is to stir things up.
mindslight 7mo ago
It's using criticisms which generally aren't even well-received in good faith conversation, stating them obtusely, and ultimately just disingenuously abusing them to support fascism which doesn't actually seek to reform but merely seeks to consolidate power. I've long criticized the US foreign policy and the US economic empire. But with the fascists destroying every institution they can, I've become extremely conservative.

kasey_junk 7mo ago

That the emperor is the one that shut it down in the first place. So some part of the statement is logically inconsistent.

kelipso 7mo ago
Not really. He is just one of many imperial managers.
Schlagbohrer 7mo ago
It is not logically inconsistent. The "Imperial Manager"ial class mentioned in the OP is multifaceted. That is to say, there are warring factions within the ruling class who disagree on details about certain things. (other things they are fully aligned on such as stamping down on the working class)

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 7mo ago

It's a logically unconvincing point of view (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47424628 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47424628) delivered with sarcasm. The sarcasm is something people have to ignore to post a substantive reply and it's not redeemed by making a strong point that's worthy of discussion.

staticman2 7mo ago

Even if America is an empire and VoA is propaganda "Imperial Manager" doesn't seem very descriptive of what a judge does.

crawfordcomeaux 7mo ago
It does more describing work than what the word "judge" is doing here. So much so that it's controversial.

wat10000 7mo ago

It’s the sort of comment that does nothing to inform or convince or really say anything. If you already agree with it the you’ll like it. If you don’t then it doesn’t tell you anything. Its only purpose is to stir things up.

mindslight 7mo ago

It's using criticisms which generally aren't even well-received in good faith conversation, stating them obtusely, and ultimately just disingenuously abusing them to support fascism which doesn't actually seek to reform but merely seeks to consolidate power. I've long criticized the US foreign policy and the US economic empire. But with the fascists destroying every institution they can, I've become extremely conservative.