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They use those because the decision to use them was made years ago. Things have changed since then
by schubidubiduba 7mo ago
They use those because the decision to use them was made years ago. Things have changed since then
- utopiah 7mo agoI want to believe... but I also need proofs of that "trend", any reference I could read on please?
- AdamN 7mo agoIt's definitely a topic of conversation in Reddit, etc... However I agree that the push to reduce US dependence by EU companies (and countries) is hampered by the fact that US stuff is already embedded (Microsoft but also Google, etc...) and that many of these companies are transnational anyway (very few European companies are solely inside the EU) and finally and most importantly just about every company will choose the option that does the job best for the right price (sovereignty is a distant second for most decision makers).
- spiderfarmer 7mo agoWhile few companies announce this publicly, I know from personal experience with corporate clients that many companies are preparing for Trump to use Big Tech as a bargaining chip. And they should. Because the US is not behaving rationally at all. https://nltimes.nl/2026/02/10/rabobank-ing-abn-amro-seek-european-alternatives-us-technology https://nltimes.nl/2026/02/10/rabobank-ing-abn-amro-seek-eur... https://www.theregister.com/2025/11/13/gartner_cio_cloud_sovereignty/ https://www.theregister.com/2025/11/13/gartner_cio_cloud_sov... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/europe-zoom-teams-france-us-b2913584.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/europe-zoom-... https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-france-is-ditching-american-tech-when-will-canada/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-... https://sherwood.news/tech/europe-wants-to-break-up-with-us-tech-heres-how-it-plans-on-doing-that/ https://sherwood.news/tech/europe-wants-to-break-up-with-us-...
- drstewart 7mo ago>While few companies announce this publicly, I know from personal experience with corporate clients Well I have even more personal experience that contradicts yours, and this isn't true at all. Everyone uses Claude / Gemini / OpenAI. Mistral isn't even on the table.
- input_sh 7mo agoCome on, compared to Google Workspace / Microsoft's whatever-it's-called-these-days, the cost of switching from one LLM provider to another is pretty much zero. Having an option at the back of your mind is all it takes right now, until push comes to shove of course.
- spiderfarmer 7mo agoJust a sample: https://mistral.ai/customers https://mistral.ai/customers And you can Google for "We use Mistral" to find thousands of usecases by startups and other companies.
- hermanzegerman 7mo agoMultiple Government organisations ditching Microsoft? Including entire German states? My University also migrated to OpenExchange
- utopiah 7mo agoThat's the public sector. I can also give examples of schools in Denmark, cities in France, education system in France, cities in Spain too, but they said "big EU companies".
- sunaookami 7mo agoNo they haven't. Every company just buys ChatGPT Enterprise.
- hk__2 7mo agoNot at all. We continue taking that decision today.
- drstewart 7mo agoNo they haven't. Proof: Most big EU companies use Claude or Gemini or OpenAI, not Mistral. That choice was made recently. Things have changed in the loud echo chambers of the internet, maybe (but not really, since people were saying that EU data sovereignty was happening any time now since 2016).
- sisve 7mo agoMy _feeling_ is that a lot of EU/European politicians has talked a lot more about the need to be independent from the US after Trump threaten Greenland. At least in the nordic countries. Not only concerning data & privacy, but defence, communications, space etc. All areas. The wheel has started to turn. You will not see it if you look around. But in 10 years time, maybe more, Europe will have stopped depending on the US. And that will hit US hard. We pay a lot of money in services to the US.
- Aerroon 7mo agoThe politicians can talk, but they needed to set up an environment that would've let a European company have a decent shot at competing with the best AI models. But they didn't. Should've thought of that before being proud of setting up those strict tech regulations.
- sisve 7mo agoThat is not how EU does things. If you want no regulation and access to capital you should go to the US. AI will take over a lot and the biggest AI company will be in US and China. But there will be room for Europe also on the top 10 list. But there will be an environment that is creating sovereignty from US much more the before. We have learned our lesson
- Aerroon 7mo agoWill there be room for Europe though? Doesn't look like it based on other tech markets.
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- jstummbillig 7mo agoI don't think big business is genuinely planning for a world where US tech becomes completely unavailable.
- sofixa 7mo agoNot entirely, but putting more eggs in that basket would certainly be considered lack of planning. Why increase your risk even further when everyone has seen how volatile things can get quickly?
- spiderfarmer 7mo ago2 years ago I would have agreed with you, but after Greenland the vibe is very different. And it's not like the situation is improving.