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I did a bachelor degree part time later in life around work and family life. I'm doing a masters full time around work and family life. My experience with acade

by ifh-hn 7mo ago

I did a bachelor degree part time later in life around work and family life. I'm doing a masters full time around work and family life. My experience with academia so far have put me off further study. I really don't get the research thing, and the whole experience seems like bullshit to me. Out of all my experiences doing these things the best has been on the taught modules, that I enjoyed and I didn't feel were out of date, the worse has been the dissertations where you're doing "research". Think of a project off the top of your head and "research" it. Nonsense.

belabartok39 7mo ago
You are right, sir, you should stay away from research. Don't worry, there are others that will handle it.
- ifh-hn 7mo ago
  Do I detect a hint of condescension? Hard to tell in text sometimes. I'm not sure how else to read your message, so in the event it is a passive aggressive attempt at being patronising I would caveat my original point with the fact I've spent the better part of a decade in higher education and I've done pretty well for myself in terms of marks, so if after all that I'm still not clear on what is meant by academic research or the point in the practice as presented to me during that time it's hardly my fault.
  - elteto 7mo ago
    About the same amount you had in your comment, to be honest.
    - ifh-hn 7mo ago
      I'd love to see where you think I was being passive aggressive and/or condescending... Like I said above it's hard to tell in text but what I read in my original comment is an overtly aggressive overview of my experience in academia. You my have a different experience and that's fine.
  - bonsai_spool 7mo ago
    > so if after all that I'm still not clear on what is meant by academic research or the point in the practice as presented to me during that time it's hardly my fault. Perhaps, but the mindset of delegating your intellectual advancement to others really is not compatible with being in academia, let alone getting a PhD.
    - ifh-hn 7mo ago
      Apologies if that's the way I'm coming across, my intent was the opposite. My mindset isn't one of delegating my intellectual advancement to others, my experience of academia is that academia actively stifled it. I almost dropped out of my bachelors be ause I felt I wasn't learning anything, but my wife talked me out of it. I'm certainly interested in learning and exploring and finding out stuff, but my experience so far is that the academic processes stand in the way of this.

by ifh-hn 7mo ago

belabartok39 7mo ago

You are right, sir, you should stay away from research. Don't worry, there are others that will handle it.

ifh-hn 7mo ago
Do I detect a hint of condescension? Hard to tell in text sometimes. I'm not sure how else to read your message, so in the event it is a passive aggressive attempt at being patronising I would caveat my original point with the fact I've spent the better part of a decade in higher education and I've done pretty well for myself in terms of marks, so if after all that I'm still not clear on what is meant by academic research or the point in the practice as presented to me during that time it's hardly my fault.
- elteto 7mo ago
  About the same amount you had in your comment, to be honest.
  - ifh-hn 7mo ago
    I'd love to see where you think I was being passive aggressive and/or condescending... Like I said above it's hard to tell in text but what I read in my original comment is an overtly aggressive overview of my experience in academia. You my have a different experience and that's fine.
- bonsai_spool 7mo ago
  > so if after all that I'm still not clear on what is meant by academic research or the point in the practice as presented to me during that time it's hardly my fault. Perhaps, but the mindset of delegating your intellectual advancement to others really is not compatible with being in academia, let alone getting a PhD.
  - ifh-hn 7mo ago
    Apologies if that's the way I'm coming across, my intent was the opposite. My mindset isn't one of delegating my intellectual advancement to others, my experience of academia is that academia actively stifled it. I almost dropped out of my bachelors be ause I felt I wasn't learning anything, but my wife talked me out of it. I'm certainly interested in learning and exploring and finding out stuff, but my experience so far is that the academic processes stand in the way of this.