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Let's keep in mind that this is the recommendation from the same government that recently declined to regulate dangerous pesticides [1] and relaxed regulations

Let's keep in mind that this is the recommendation from the same government that recently declined to regulate dangerous pesticides [1] and relaxed regulations on additives [2]. The current US administration is not at all interesting in addressing America's unhealthy food. [1] https://cen.acs.org/environment/pesticides/glyphosate-roundup-bayer-monsanto-preemption-trump-executive-order/104/web/2026/03 https://cen.acs.org/environment/pesticides/glyphosate-roundu... [2] https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-takes-new-approach-no-artificial-colors-claims https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-take...

gavinray 7mo ago
It's better than the "Food Pyramid" and "MyPlate" which were the gov standards when I was growing up. Those standards put processed carbs like bread/pasta as the largest part of a "healthy diet". Whoops.
- hackyhacky 7mo ago
  > It's better than the "Food Pyramid" and "MyPlate" which were the gov standards when I was growing up. Correct. The root of the problem is that corporate interests influence government regulation. [1] That hasn't changed. What has changed is which industry is offering the largest bribes. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture
- triceratops 7mo ago
  Humans have relied on bread, pasta, rice, and tubers for most of their calories since time immemorial. Japanese people eat plenty of rice even today and they are very healthy. "Food pyramid dumb, eat meat" is a very reductive take.
  - throwaway27448 7mo ago
    Only the last hundred to twenty thousand years or so. Evolutionarily speaking, that's not our typical diet. Maybe excepting tubers.
    - triceratops 7mo ago
      Explain Japan.
      - throwaway27448 7mo ago
        I never said eating rice was bad for you, but fruits, nuts, meats are also human staples. The big thing domesticated cereal brought us was rapid population growth and the state.
  - mixmastamyk 7mo ago
    Folks had to do the harvest and milling work themselves until recently, it’s not the same. Nor are the quantities.
    - triceratops 7mo ago
      That's what I mean by reductive. Lifestyle changes, processed food filled with sugar and marketed by corporations...they all played a part.
- h4kr1 7mo ago
  I love when the Food Pyramid and MyPlate are brought up as arguments on why Americans are unhealthy these days. National estimates suggest only 8%-14% of Americans ever followed MyPlate. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40752889/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40752889/ Also, MyPlate only used "grains" as a category, with a note to make half from whole grains...not just processed carbs. Big difference. And, vegetables are the biggest category. Adding on to that, if you workout in ANY capacity, you need simple carbs.

gavinray 7mo ago

It's better than the "Food Pyramid" and "MyPlate" which were the gov standards when I was growing up. Those standards put processed carbs like bread/pasta as the largest part of a "healthy diet". Whoops.

hackyhacky 7mo ago
> It's better than the "Food Pyramid" and "MyPlate" which were the gov standards when I was growing up. Correct. The root of the problem is that corporate interests influence government regulation. [1] That hasn't changed. What has changed is which industry is offering the largest bribes. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture
triceratops 7mo ago
Humans have relied on bread, pasta, rice, and tubers for most of their calories since time immemorial. Japanese people eat plenty of rice even today and they are very healthy. "Food pyramid dumb, eat meat" is a very reductive take.
- throwaway27448 7mo ago
  Only the last hundred to twenty thousand years or so. Evolutionarily speaking, that's not our typical diet. Maybe excepting tubers.
  - triceratops 7mo ago
    Explain Japan.
    - throwaway27448 7mo ago
      I never said eating rice was bad for you, but fruits, nuts, meats are also human staples. The big thing domesticated cereal brought us was rapid population growth and the state.
- mixmastamyk 7mo ago
  Folks had to do the harvest and milling work themselves until recently, it’s not the same. Nor are the quantities.
  - triceratops 7mo ago
    That's what I mean by reductive. Lifestyle changes, processed food filled with sugar and marketed by corporations...they all played a part.
h4kr1 7mo ago
I love when the Food Pyramid and MyPlate are brought up as arguments on why Americans are unhealthy these days. National estimates suggest only 8%-14% of Americans ever followed MyPlate. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40752889/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40752889/ Also, MyPlate only used "grains" as a category, with a note to make half from whole grains...not just processed carbs. Big difference. And, vegetables are the biggest category. Adding on to that, if you workout in ANY capacity, you need simple carbs.