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Whether this is confirmed or not, we have countless examples of AI used in targeting in Gaza. Anthropic were very vocal, well before this happened, that they w

Whether this is confirmed or not, we have countless examples of AI used in targeting in Gaza. Anthropic were very vocal, well before this happened, that they were against the use case. I don't blame them. These use cases are like blaming MySQL for storing the lat/long of the school. AI can't be held accountable and the company was trying to protect us and, yes, it was too late.

floralhangnail 7mo ago
"A Computer Can Never Be Held Accountable Therefore a Computer Must Never Make a Management Decision"
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 7mo ago
  I mean, the problem is whoever follow the suggestion without double checking
  - angry_octet 7mo ago
    [flagged]
    - orwin 7mo ago
      > The only ROE they follow with any consistency is "Don't shoot Jews". Except Arabic or Ethiopian Jews. They have a bit of leeway that way.
      - selimthegrim 7mo ago
        And hostages coming towards you with their hands up speaking Hebrew.
  - razster 7mo ago
    I bet there is some moronic explanation. I have no doubt at this point and how things are going.
  - polynomial 7mo ago
    Well at least you know who to fire
- maplethorpe 7mo ago
  I mean, they've made the argument that their computer learns like a human, so should be able to get away with ingesting all the data it sees, the same way a human does. Why shouldn't it also go to jail, the same way a human does?
  - 0xpiguy 7mo ago
    What? How? By putting the computer or robot that made mistake in a prison cell?
    - maplethorpe 7mo ago
      Yes. Claude exists on physical media somewhere. Put that media in a cell with no access to the internet. No one must access Claude outside of visitation hours. Just because it's difficult doesn't mean it can't be done. If you're claiming your machine should be treated like a human, then let's treat it like a human.
      - rune-dev 7mo ago
        I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not…
        frakt0x90 7mo ago
        It's a funny way of imposing a very large fine. Make the service only available during predefined "visitation hours", prevent updated learning except from resources available in the prison, restrict speech and actions according to prison rules etc.
- keyle 7mo ago
  I remember this but I can't remember where it's from? IBM?
  - captn3m0 7mo ago
    Yes: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Feb/3/a-computer-can-never-be-held-accountable/ https://simonwillison.net/2025/Feb/3/a-computer-can-never-be...
kouteiheika 7mo ago
> Anthropic were very vocal, well before this happened, that they were against the use case. > I don't blame them. These use cases are like blaming MySQL for storing the lat/long of the school. AI can't be held accountable and the company was trying to protect us and, yes, it was too late. They weren't trying to protect squat, and were not against this use case. Their only two red lines are "no mass domestic surveillance" and "no fully autonomous killing until the AI gets good enough to be able to do it". Assuming the story is true, there's no chance this was a fully autonomous act and was most certainly approved and executed by people.
- nyantaro1 7mo ago
  I would also challenge "no mass domestic surveillance"
aaron695 7mo ago
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j2kun 7mo ago
> These use cases are like blaming MySQL for storing the lat/long of the school. A storage layer versus a decision making system? What a ridiculous comparison.

floralhangnail 7mo ago

"A Computer Can Never Be Held Accountable Therefore a Computer Must Never Make a Management Decision"

Fire-Dragon-DoL 7mo ago
I mean, the problem is whoever follow the suggestion without double checking
- angry_octet 7mo ago
  [flagged]
  - orwin 7mo ago
    > The only ROE they follow with any consistency is "Don't shoot Jews". Except Arabic or Ethiopian Jews. They have a bit of leeway that way.
    - selimthegrim 7mo ago
      And hostages coming towards you with their hands up speaking Hebrew.
- razster 7mo ago
  I bet there is some moronic explanation. I have no doubt at this point and how things are going.
- polynomial 7mo ago
  Well at least you know who to fire
maplethorpe 7mo ago
I mean, they've made the argument that their computer learns like a human, so should be able to get away with ingesting all the data it sees, the same way a human does. Why shouldn't it also go to jail, the same way a human does?
- 0xpiguy 7mo ago
  What? How? By putting the computer or robot that made mistake in a prison cell?
  - maplethorpe 7mo ago
    Yes. Claude exists on physical media somewhere. Put that media in a cell with no access to the internet. No one must access Claude outside of visitation hours. Just because it's difficult doesn't mean it can't be done. If you're claiming your machine should be treated like a human, then let's treat it like a human.
    - rune-dev 7mo ago
      I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not…
      - frakt0x90 7mo ago
        It's a funny way of imposing a very large fine. Make the service only available during predefined "visitation hours", prevent updated learning except from resources available in the prison, restrict speech and actions according to prison rules etc.
keyle 7mo ago
I remember this but I can't remember where it's from? IBM?
- captn3m0 7mo ago
  Yes: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Feb/3/a-computer-can-never-be-held-accountable/ https://simonwillison.net/2025/Feb/3/a-computer-can-never-be...

kouteiheika 7mo ago

> Anthropic were very vocal, well before this happened, that they were against the use case. > I don't blame them. These use cases are like blaming MySQL for storing the lat/long of the school. AI can't be held accountable and the company was trying to protect us and, yes, it was too late. They weren't trying to protect squat, and were not against this use case. Their only two red lines are "no mass domestic surveillance" and "no fully autonomous killing until the AI gets good enough to be able to do it". Assuming the story is true, there's no chance this was a fully autonomous act and was most certainly approved and executed by people.

nyantaro1 7mo ago
I would also challenge "no mass domestic surveillance"

aaron695 7mo ago

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j2kun 7mo ago

> These use cases are like blaming MySQL for storing the lat/long of the school. A storage layer versus a decision making system? What a ridiculous comparison.