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They may be trying to sell through the existing CPU before a launch (soft or not) of the M5-based versions (though I've heard the rumor is there will be no M5 U

by bombcar 8mo ago

They may be trying to sell through the existing CPU before a launch (soft or not) of the M5-based versions (though I've heard the rumor is there will be no M5 Ultra and we might be looking at an M6 Ultra later in the year).

caseyf7 8mo ago
There will absolutely be an M5 Ultra. Gurman has confirmed it.
- halJordan 8mo ago
  That means little and less
reactordev 8mo ago
This is most likely the case. They ended their production run and have inventory (or so they thought). Now with the rush for LLM power, they sold out of them and they no longer have that inventory. This was a surprise to their bottom line AND their supply chain logistics plan! I’m sure they wanted to order more but were priced out for the increase in ram costs. Apple probably decided it wasn’t worth it until they revamped the architecture (and put a larger order in this time around). I’m not a buyer but I suspect that’s what’s playing out right now behind closed door meetings.
- Terretta 8mo ago
  Regret on a $10k desktop rendered obsolete for purpose (the 512GB of RAM only has so many applications) months later is not a great look. It's good long-term brand value thinking to close the regrets window earlier. Definitely “Caution” stage: https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/mac-studio/ https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/mac-studio/
  - pstuart 8mo ago
    Perhaps not? Think of all the Chrome tabs you could keep open at one time!
    - bombcar 8mo ago
      512 GB of RAM? Could probably have five tabs and two electron apps at the same time!
  - rbanffy 8mo ago
    “Rendered obsolete” is a doing a lot here. It might have been discontinued, but it is still faster than the rest of the line and the only self-contained computer that can handle models that large. The most I would say is that it was discontinued, but, depending on how it goes, it might be just sold out for now pending on memory procurement.
jmull 8mo ago
Interestingly, the "ultra" Mac Studio released a year ago was based on the older M3, not M4. Apparently, the work to "ultra-fy" a CPU is significant (which makes sense) so there can be a lag. Not that they have to follow pattern, but the a Mac Studio ultra released later this year might be based on M4. Or one based on M5 might be released a year or more from now.
- groundzeros2015 8mo ago
  My understanding is “ultra-ify” means put two together. I think it’s about having inventory https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2022/03/apple-unveils-m1-ultra-the-worlds-most-powerful-chip-for-a-personal-computer/ https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2022/03/apple-unveils-m1-ultr...
  - zozbot234 8mo ago
    It used to mean that, but the new M5 Pro and M5 Max have separate CPU and GPU chiplets with an interposer, similar to how the previous generation Ultras were based on connecting two Max full dies. So it's unclear whether there will be any Ultra for the M5.
    - avidphantasm 8mo ago
      And here I was hoping they would put an M5 Ultra in a MacBook Pro. Maybe they will add it as an option to the 16” at a later date.
      - bombcar 8mo ago
        I wonder if the MacBook Pro can handle the thermal envelope of actually running an Ultra flat out.
        wtallis 8mo ago
        There are gaming laptops that come with power bricks rated for higher output than a Mac Studio's power supply. M3 Ultra levels of power dissipation are possible to handle in a laptop, but it wouldn't look much like a MacBook Pro. That kind of gaming laptop typically has four fans (compared to two on a MacBook Pro), and large vents on the sides, bottom, and back of the machine allowing them to move a lot more air through the system.

by bombcar 8mo ago

caseyf7 8mo ago

There will absolutely be an M5 Ultra. Gurman has confirmed it.

halJordan 8mo ago
That means little and less

reactordev 8mo ago

This is most likely the case. They ended their production run and have inventory (or so they thought). Now with the rush for LLM power, they sold out of them and they no longer have that inventory. This was a surprise to their bottom line AND their supply chain logistics plan! I’m sure they wanted to order more but were priced out for the increase in ram costs. Apple probably decided it wasn’t worth it until they revamped the architecture (and put a larger order in this time around). I’m not a buyer but I suspect that’s what’s playing out right now behind closed door meetings.

Terretta 8mo ago
Regret on a $10k desktop rendered obsolete for purpose (the 512GB of RAM only has so many applications) months later is not a great look. It's good long-term brand value thinking to close the regrets window earlier. Definitely “Caution” stage: https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/mac-studio/ https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/mac-studio/
- pstuart 8mo ago
  Perhaps not? Think of all the Chrome tabs you could keep open at one time!
  - bombcar 8mo ago
    512 GB of RAM? Could probably have five tabs and two electron apps at the same time!
- rbanffy 8mo ago
  “Rendered obsolete” is a doing a lot here. It might have been discontinued, but it is still faster than the rest of the line and the only self-contained computer that can handle models that large. The most I would say is that it was discontinued, but, depending on how it goes, it might be just sold out for now pending on memory procurement.

jmull 8mo ago

Interestingly, the "ultra" Mac Studio released a year ago was based on the older M3, not M4. Apparently, the work to "ultra-fy" a CPU is significant (which makes sense) so there can be a lag. Not that they have to follow pattern, but the a Mac Studio ultra released later this year might be based on M4. Or one based on M5 might be released a year or more from now.

groundzeros2015 8mo ago
My understanding is “ultra-ify” means put two together. I think it’s about having inventory https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2022/03/apple-unveils-m1-ultra-the-worlds-most-powerful-chip-for-a-personal-computer/ https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2022/03/apple-unveils-m1-ultr...
- zozbot234 8mo ago
  It used to mean that, but the new M5 Pro and M5 Max have separate CPU and GPU chiplets with an interposer, similar to how the previous generation Ultras were based on connecting two Max full dies. So it's unclear whether there will be any Ultra for the M5.
  - avidphantasm 8mo ago
    And here I was hoping they would put an M5 Ultra in a MacBook Pro. Maybe they will add it as an option to the 16” at a later date.
    - bombcar 8mo ago
      I wonder if the MacBook Pro can handle the thermal envelope of actually running an Ultra flat out.
      - wtallis 8mo ago
        There are gaming laptops that come with power bricks rated for higher output than a Mac Studio's power supply. M3 Ultra levels of power dissipation are possible to handle in a laptop, but it wouldn't look much like a MacBook Pro. That kind of gaming laptop typically has four fans (compared to two on a MacBook Pro), and large vents on the sides, bottom, and back of the machine allowing them to move a lot more air through the system.