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I’m worried that China will build said killing machines and that we’ll be unprepared.
by ed_mercer 7mo ago
I’m worried that China will build said killing machines and that we’ll be unprepared.
- orwin 7mo agoUnless you're living in Taiwan, I don't think you have a lot to prepare for.
- ethbr1 7mo agoJust wait until China gets to the next stage of capitalism. They're investing their trade surplus in assets around the world, especially the third world. When those assets start to go bad and/or the government nationalizes them? We'll see if China responds any differently than any of the other colonial powers with business interests.
- dbtc 7mo agoI'm worried that China will build said killing machines only because they see that we are and feel the need to be prepared.
- bilbo0s 7mo agoThis. Everyone will do this, because everyone will believe that everyone will do this. Even worse, there really is no guarantee that the great powers will create the best terminators. Everyone talks about China and the US. (And we should.) At the same time however, we should all keep in mind that nations from India and Indonesia, to North and South Korea will not be simply sitting on their hands while the US and China forge ahead. A future where 4 million dollar American or Chinese terminators are easily overwhelmed by thousands and thousands of 5 dollar Indian autonomous devices is not at all outside the realm of future possibilities. That's what makes it all so concerning. We can kind of see where it leads in terms of enhanced capability potential for non-state actors, but we can't really see a way to avoid that future.
- sidcool 7mo agoGame theory in action
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- zwarag 7mo agoIf you compare how many countries China has attacked or invaded with how many the United States has attacked or invaded, it paints a clear picture of whom to fear.
- henry2023 7mo ago“I’m afraid my neighbor would kill my son, therefore, I’ll kill my son myself”
- OhioMan2943 7mo agoThe myth of american moral superiority had been dead for a while. Why would china be any more evil than the US, which has waged far more colonialist wars and killed far more foreign lives in recent times (look at the news today for inspiration)
- afavour 7mo agoI don’t see any contradiction with what the OP said, though. You don’t have to be morally superior to still be concerned about a country’s forces killing you.
- OhioMan2943 7mo agoIt's a reversal of the more likely situation which is the us getting it and china following in response. Nuclear weapons anyone? Remember who started those.
- lakrici88284 7mo ago[dead]
- smallnix 7mo agoUighur concentration camps? Falun Gong organ harvesting?
- ceejayoz 7mo ago[flagged]
- OhioMan2943 7mo agoVietnam war, iraq war, afghanistan war, iran war, gaza war, allowing iraq to get and use chemical weapons on iran, forced regime change in south america (then and now). Get real it's not equivalent in any way
- nozzlegear 7mo ago
- jatari 7mo agoChina is currently a more morally virtuous country than the US.
- onetokeoverthe 7mo ago[dead]
- rockskon 7mo agoThey welded shut the doors to Uyghur Muslims and had a bunch of donated food for them stacked outside their homes in one giant pile that they couldn't get to. It either rotted away or was eaten by animals.
- fooster 7mo agoJack booted thugs shot a women in the face for the crime of sitting in her car and the administration called her a terrorist. Nothing happened to the thug. Jack booted thugs shot a man in the back for the crime of defending a woman and the administration called him a terrorist. Nothing happened to that thug either.
- insane_dreamer 7mo agoAbsolutely. But what people don't realize is this sort of thing happens in China too, it's just never reported or heard about, other than some whispers here and there, because of such tight control over the media, the internet, and public discourse. In the US, as much as the fascists are trying to take over, at least you can still protest and make your voice heard.
- kelseyfrog 7mo agoSource?
- insane_dreamer 7mo agoMe. I lived and worked there for a number of years. When you talk to the local people in confidence you find out about this stuff, and you sometimes catch glimpses of it before it's scrubbed from local social media. There's a very high level of control.
- jimmydoe 7mo agowhile you are worried about China, USI have done a genocide and started a new war.
- infinitewars 7mo agoAnd the U.S./Thiel/Musk are trying to start an AI-powered nuclear war next: https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dome_(missile_defense_system) https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dome_(missile_defense_syst...
- suzzer99 7mo agoI got scared when I saw China's synchronized drone swarms at the Beijing Olympics, which I believe was the point.
- tartoran 7mo ago[flagged]
- suzzer99 7mo agoWhy would you think my comment has anything to do with defending Trump or the US attacking Iran? It was about technology.
- tartoran 7mo agoI don’t think your comment had anything to do with you defending Trump, I don’t think you are. I just drew the logical conclusion with respect to US and China striving for supremacy. While China is somewhat ‘in sync’ we have a leader who’s sawing chaos and impulsively starting wars without having long term plans. If something it adds to the point you were making. Cheers
- platevoltage 7mo agoMy thoughts were "why do we still buy fireworks. This is way cooler, and not really annoying"
- nerfbatplz 7mo agoThe last time China bombed a foreign country was 1979, 47 years ago. Has the US gone even 47 days in the last 80 years without bombing another country?
- GauntletWizard 7mo ago[flagged]
- cherry_tree 7mo agoAre you suggesting the USA has not funded proxies?
- nozzlegear 7mo agoI think they were suggesting that China has bombed foreign countries through the use of proxies. They didn't actually say anything about the USA.
- platevoltage 7mo agoWouldn't catch the USA fighting a proxy war. /s
- idiotsecant 7mo agoYa, this is in fact quantifiably better. Insofar as number of deaths = level of badness. Neither is a picnic but I'll take a small proxy conflict over massive direct air campaign and definitely boots-on-the-ground Freedom campaigns any day.
- bamboozled 7mo agoThey have to build them because we will build them...
- insane_dreamer 7mo agoI reject that argument. I dislike China (the CCP, not the people), and having lived there 6 years I know it much better than most foreigners. But your argument leads to us becoming just like China (CCP). I'd rather hold to some moral values and humanity and be a weaker country, than discard them to be strong.
- kennywinker 7mo agoOf course! The only way to fight ai powered killing machines and mass surveilance is to make ai powred killing machines and do mass surveillance. It’s so simple, i don’t know why i didn’t think of it! But seriously - you are describing the kind of thinking that caused ww1, and the nuclear arms race that almost caused human extinction. It’s a bad idea that goes bad places.