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No. A job being “verified” doesn’t solve the main problem post around 2023. Every single job opening gets hundreds of openings within the first day of it bein
by raw_anon_1111 8mo ago
No.
A job being “verified” doesn’t solve the main problem post around 2023. Every single job opening gets hundreds of openings within the first day of it being opened.
If you are looking for a job as any type of generic developer - full stack, front end, mobile, back end, it’s almost impossible to stand out from the crowd. No, “I reversed a btree on the whiteboard to get into big tech as a mid level developer” doesn’t make you special.
If you do have a specialized set of skills that allows you to stand out from the crowd, you still shouldn’t be randomly spamming job boards and you should be able to sell yourself to someone at the company.
My personal anecdote. In my specialty - AWS + app dev + leading strategic initiatives, I’m very well credentialed (trust me on this) and in a certain niche of AWS, I was considered one of the industry experts at the time (again trust me).
But when randomly spamming job boards on a lark in 2023, I heard nothing.
That was always a plan B while I was waiting for what ended up being three offers via my network and one by reaching out to a company who specialized in my niche of AWS.
I’m not bragging, I am old. I should have a network and credentials.
- tryauuum 8mo agoJesus christ, AWS has niches This shouldn't surprise me, knowledge of a code base is a competitive advantage. But there is just something depressing about it. Maybe it being closed source and you having to learn it by being burned by undocumented behavior? Please tell more
- raw_anon_1111 8mo agoIt’s Amazon Connect - a popular hosted call center solution ported to AWS from Amazon Retail. There are people and companies that do nothing but Amazon Connect. But that’s all they know. I’m a developer first with well rounded experience with AWS. It’s just the niche that helps me stand out a little when I was looking for a job and now internally where I work for a third party consulting company. But you can throw me at almost any AWS related project and I’ve probably done something related over the past 8 years. I talked a little bit about Connect here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47241412 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47241412 I worked at AWS ProServe / their internal consulting department - full time blue badge RSU earning employee - and I was one of the highest contributors to a popular at the time open source “AWS Solution” around Connect and I had my own open source projects published under AWS’s open source GitHub organization. BTW, I would never use the “solution” now. There are a lot better ways to do it post gen AI. The thing was, it was years before AWS introduced APIs around Connect and even longer before they have CloudFormation support. I was the first to use those APIs at scale for clients and found and reported bugs to the team while I was there.
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- lazypenguin 8mo agoYes, we recently posted for an entry/mid level position and we got 1800 applications in a few days. It’s impossible to filter the list, I spent several hours to see how feasible it was and after getting through maybe 150 applications I gave up. We’re a small team, we don’t have the resources to cut through the noise without just blanket rejecting people. There doesn’t need to be a board that vets jobs, there needs to be a board that vets candidates and makes it easier for companies find their ideal candidate.
- raw_anon_1111 8mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_problem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_problem How do you vet mid level and entry developers? I know that sounds like a dumb question. But I only expect a mid level developer especially enterprise developers to turn well defined requirements into code. The bar is especially low in the age of AI. One is basically interchangeable for another. I have only interviewed senior level developers - ie people who I expect to operate on a higher level of scope, impact and ambiguity. Those are easy to filter out via a few behavioral questions.
- throwawaysleep 8mo agoBut if that is the standard, what is the point of the mid level developer in the first place? I have a tool to turn well defined requirements into code and it is $20-200 a month.
- raw_anon_1111 8mo agoI wouldn’t trust AI to do anything that I didn’t know how to do myself. You still need SMEs for mobile, web etc. you just need fewer of them.
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- sdevonoes 8mo ago99% of the engineers out there are generic ones (including myself)… and most of us are working.
- raw_anon_1111 8mo agoIf you take away my AWS account and my ability to “add on to what Becky said” and “look at things from a 1000 foot view”, I am a “generic developer” and was one for 25 years. That doesn’t have anything to do with the fact that “generic developers” are a dime a dozen and it’s hard to stand out from the crowd using an ATS. I just said I had the same issue when experimenting with ATS’s.
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- raw_anon_1111 8mo agoSo exactly how do you expose “stronger matches” for “full stack developer with Java and React experience”? These are generic qualifications.