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Take that to its extreme. Suppose there was a technology that you do not own that would make everyone's job redundant. Everyone out of a job. There is no need f

by rapnie 7mo ago

Take that to its extreme. Suppose there was a technology that you do not own that would make everyone's job redundant. Everyone out of a job. There is no need for education, for skills to be mastered, for expertise. Would it still be insane to complain?

satvikpendem 7mo ago
There are bigger issues if everyone is out of a job.
mchaver 7mo ago
Then society needs to collectively decide how to allocate resources. Uh oh!
- cowboylowrez 7mo ago
  the resources go to the guys with the AI duh
- duskdozer 7mo ago
  The owners of the AI companies will collectively decide how to allocate resources, rather.
rkuodys 7mo ago
Isnt' that what old-school software did for many years? It used to take jobs, just not from developers. If you implement software that takes accounting from 10 people to 2, 8 just got fired. If you have Support solution helping one support rep answer 100 requests instead of 20, you just optimised support force by the rate of 1 to 5. I'm in the boat of SaaS myself, but feel a bit dishonesty from Senior devs complaining about technology stealing jobs. When it was them doing the stealing, it was fine. Now that the tables have turned, it's not technology is bad
- jhgb 7mo ago
  Jevons' paradox still exists. Making X cheaper (usually by needing fewer people to do one unit of X) can and often does lead to more people being needed for X.
iExploder 7mo ago
take that to absolute extreme. Why do we even need a job? If all our physical needs are met maybe humanity can finally focus on real problems (spiritual, mental, inter personal) that no amount of "jobs" can solve...
- pajamasam 7mo ago
  Because greedy capitalists control the world which means that most people's most basic needs aren't met if they don't have a job.
  - darkwater 7mo ago
    I believe that if situation gets that bad, then we will actually do some new kind of revolution, even in the West.
hk__2 7mo ago
You still need education, skills to be mastered and expertise even in a world without jobs. How would you play any game or sport without skills?
post-it 7mo ago
A world where there is no need for work? Oh no, my steak is too juicy and my lobster is too buttery.
- Espressosaurus 7mo ago
  A world where there is no need for workers--not at all the same thing. You may not end up with a seat at the table.

by rapnie 7mo ago

satvikpendem 7mo ago

There are bigger issues if everyone is out of a job.

mchaver 7mo ago

Then society needs to collectively decide how to allocate resources. Uh oh!

cowboylowrez 7mo ago
the resources go to the guys with the AI duh
duskdozer 7mo ago
The owners of the AI companies will collectively decide how to allocate resources, rather.

rkuodys 7mo ago

Isnt' that what old-school software did for many years? It used to take jobs, just not from developers. If you implement software that takes accounting from 10 people to 2, 8 just got fired. If you have Support solution helping one support rep answer 100 requests instead of 20, you just optimised support force by the rate of 1 to 5. I'm in the boat of SaaS myself, but feel a bit dishonesty from Senior devs complaining about technology stealing jobs. When it was them doing the stealing, it was fine. Now that the tables have turned, it's not technology is bad

jhgb 7mo ago
Jevons' paradox still exists. Making X cheaper (usually by needing fewer people to do one unit of X) can and often does lead to more people being needed for X.

iExploder 7mo ago

take that to absolute extreme. Why do we even need a job? If all our physical needs are met maybe humanity can finally focus on real problems (spiritual, mental, inter personal) that no amount of "jobs" can solve...

pajamasam 7mo ago
Because greedy capitalists control the world which means that most people's most basic needs aren't met if they don't have a job.
- darkwater 7mo ago
  I believe that if situation gets that bad, then we will actually do some new kind of revolution, even in the West.

hk__2 7mo ago

You still need education, skills to be mastered and expertise even in a world without jobs. How would you play any game or sport without skills?

post-it 7mo ago

A world where there is no need for work? Oh no, my steak is too juicy and my lobster is too buttery.

Espressosaurus 7mo ago
A world where there is no need for workers--not at all the same thing. You may not end up with a seat at the table.